What next after Title 42?

First: Tens of thousands of migrants gather in Northern Mexico, despite Washington declaring that ‘the border is not open’. This comes after controversial immigration rules known as Title 42 came to an end overnight. Joining the show to discuss what this all means is correspondent Rosa Flores.

Next: We continue to unpack the expiration of Title 42 and the impact on those entering the US illegally with journalist Caitlin Dickerson, who recently won a Pulitzer Prize for her extensive reporting on immigration.

Also on today's show: US Surgeon General Vivek Murthy; Native American activist Crystal Echo Hawk; Conductor/pianist Daniel Barenboim (from the archives) To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices