Is the Iran crisis distracting the world from Ukraine's fight for survival?

U.S. President Donald Trump's decision to go to war with Iran has sucked up global attention and resources. Meanwhile, Ukraine's fight for survival against Russia is grinding on, with no end in sight. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky tells Christiane Amanpour efforts toward a ceasefire with Russia are unlikely as the United States shifts its focus to the Middle East. Then, as the Iran conflict drags on, former US negotiator Nate Swanson says time is on Tehran's side. Also, a daring escape from North Korea. We hear from a South Korean man who risked it all for a new life. Plus, united in grief, and in hope...Israeli Maoz Inon and Palestinian Aziz Abu Sarah join on their unlikely friendship, and their new book "The Future is Peace." And from the archives, the tourists determined to see Iran with their own eyes.

Air date: April 25, 2026

Guests:

Volodymyr Zelensky

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