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David T. Cole

Tara Ariano

Sarah D. Bunting

Need someone to share the joy, pain, and shoulder pads of your Dawson's Creek, Melrose Place and Beverly Hills, 90210 rewatches? Tara Ariano and Sarah D. Bunting, co-founders of Television Without Pity, are here for you!

Again With This: Dawson's, Melrose, 90210

Dawson decides to be the change he wants to see in the world, telling Pacey directly that he like-likes Gretchen before anything really happens between them. Predictably, Pacey's not about it, which is why the timing is perfect for him to accompany her to her college town to pick up the car she left there: Pacey knows this will necessitate interaction between Gretchen and her ex-boyfriend Nick (Christian Kane, later of Angel and Leverage!), so Pacey can totally manipulate them into getting back together rather than have Gretchen get closer to Dawson! In theory! While Gretchen is out of his immediate vicinity, Dawson has awareness of other people -- specifically, Grams and Mr. Brooks, who have evidently gotten closer since Mr. Brooks's failed overtures at the Christmas party. What is Dawson's duty to Grams, knowing that Mr. Brooks is ill? Elsewhere in Capeside, Drue is very much not looking forward to a visit with his father, so it's just as well that he happens to shut them into a Yacht Club storage closet, then break off the knob. Don't fight the natural way of the universe: listen to our episode on "The Tao Of Dawson"!

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DC S04.E11: The Tao Of Dawson

Everyone is abuzz about the big kiss at the party in the previous episode. What did it mean? Was it strictly mistletoe-related, or should everyone be monitoring Dawson and Gretchen for couple-iness? Joey is clearly preoccupied yet also unable to talk about it like an adult, biting Pacey's head off when he tries to bring it up and finally kicking him out because he's...being too nice and offering to take household responsibilities off her hands (like the care of Alexander while Bessie and Bodie are out of town). Joey's martyr complex has the worst possible consequence: she beefs an English test! OH NO!!!!! Meanwhile, when Dawson himself isn't dodging questions about the kiss and insisting that he and Gretchen are just friends, he's doing what everyone has been dying for: making another movie! He's excited to learn more about Mr. Brooks for his documentary project, but a little concerned that Mr. Brooks seems to be losing his grasp on movie trivia. Is Mr. Brooks...okay? In another silo, Jen gets an extremely reluctant Jack to join her for a trip to Provincetown for a Gay-Straight Alliance meetup. Jack instantly clashes with Toby (David Monahan), the seeming leader of the group, for daring to care about his and his friends' rights -- not that Toby helps himself by dismissing Jack as a straight-passing jock. You can rely on us for an episode about "Self Reliance"!

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DC S04.E10: Self Reliance

It's Christmastime, but don't get too excited for the merriment yet: college application stress looms over (nearly) everyone. Not Joey, of course, who's invited to a Yacht Club dinner for prospective students of Worthington University. She spends so much effort convincing Pacey to go that she completely forgets how much she clenches up any time she's near a cloth napkin or multi-fork table setting, and recedes into the background as Pacey charms the alumni rep. As for everyone else: Dawson watches Mr. Brooks's last movie, Turn Away, My Sweet and is blown away (my sweet) -- so much so, perhaps, that when he has to write his essay for his application to USC film school, he's only able to write around the prompt question of why he wants to be a filmmaker. Jack finishes all his applications and is concerned about the very vague answers Jen's giving about hers -- and about the silent treatment Grams is STILL giving her after the rave fiasco. Gretchen learns that the Leery Christmas parties she loved have a kid have been suspended in her absence the last few years due to...well, divorce; she convinces the Leerys to let her throw one at the house, which conveniently lets everyone use it to hash out their issues -- even Grams and Mr. Brooks! Dig out your mistletoe for Christmas in August, and our episode on "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang"!

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DC S04.E09: Kiss Kiss Bang Bang

When Principal Peskin (Harry Shearer!) sees at the same time as most of his students that his little sailboat AND dog have been relocated into the indoor pool at Capeside High, he has GOT to find out who's behind the prank. When he narrows the suspects down to our three opening-credits boys, he and Mitch tag-team their interrogation of what they were each doing the previous day. We hear all about Pacey's ride-along with Doug; Dawson's discovery that Mr. Brooks also spent high school dreaming of a career directing films; and Jack replacing Andie with Jen for soccer duty, just in time for some of the gay-tolerant dads who DIDN'T pull their kids off the team to reveal that their support is conditional on Jack doing what they want with player assignments. Lurking at various points in everyone's stories is...Drue? Well, that's curious! We suspect you'll enjoy our episode on "The Unusual Suspects"!

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DC S04.E08: The Unusual Suspects

In the wake of Andie's supposedly nearly fatal drug interaction at the rave, the Capeside friend group is in tatters. Even though Andie has been very clear in stating that Jen is not to blame for what happened, neither Jack nor Pacey can forgive her. When Jen won't oblige Drue by forsaking hope of making up with them and running to him instead, he schemes to FORCE her to spend time with him by confessing to his part in the drug handoff and getting them both sentenced to community service together. Meanwhile, Joseph has a wild suggestion for Andie: since she's already earned enough credits to leave high school right now, maybe she just...should? And go live with an aunt in Florence until it's time for commencement? Andie doesn't feel great about leaving when everyone is in a big fight, and feels even worse when Jack gives her the guilts about it. Speaking of guilt: the last piece of Joey's application to Williams College is a peer recommendation from the person who knows her best. Naturally, this becomes a whole thing as she has to decide whether that person is the one who's been at every pivotal moment since she was barely out of diapers, or the one who got to know every pore on her body when they were living in extremely close quarters for three months and not, say, THE ONE WHO'S KNOWN JOEY HER WHOLE LIFE AND RAISED HER AFTER THEIR MOTHER DIED. Say hello to our episode on "You Had Me At Goodbye"!

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DC S04.E07: You Had Me At Goodbye

People have a lot to celebrate at the top of this episode. Andie finds out she got into Harvard! Dawson's parents decide to be parents...some more! What great timing: there's a rave for everyone to go dance their faces off! After Drue's spamming finally convinces Jen to go, she digs her un-birthday ecstasy out of her dresser just in time for Andie to see her with it. Jen's description of the drug experience is a little too exuberant -- particularly given that Andie's already disappointed that her antidepressants have flattened her highs along with the lows so that her academic achievement doesn't feel like anything at all -- and before you know it, Andie has snuck one of Jen's tabs. Dawson tags along with Pacey, Joey, and Gretchen, and in the car ride over Joey can't help noticing how flirty they seem and asks Gretchen if Dawson might think things are going anywhere with her. Gretchen laughs off the idea, but can't help returning to it. Crank up the Burkittsville 3: it's our episode on "Great Xpectations"!

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DC S04.E06: Great Xpectations

Remember a couple of episodes ago when Mitch had a cold and Gale had a stomach bug? Well, he's all better but she just can't shake it...because it's not a stomach bug, actually. When the home test turns pink, Mitch is unreservedly excited about it, but Gale's not sure adding a baby to their mountain of new-restaurant debt and the college tuition they're about to have to pay for the crappy kid they already have -- and the fact that the crappy kid they already have is already moping around jealous of the baby that isn't even here yet probably doesn't help. Dawson seeks advice from Gretchen, who already had to nudge the Leery men toward the obvious conclusion with regard to Gale's symptoms, and gets a lot more than he expected. Joey has noticed that Pacey keeps cutting off their makeout sessions when she would be fine continuing, and confides in Jen that she thinks he's getting frustrated that she's still not ready for sex. Jen is a very good friend who gives her very good advice about being prepared for sex whether she's currently ready or not; maybe Jen also could have told her about hiding her take-home package from the clinic in a place where someone else might chance upon it while putting away Joey's socks. Andie's latest scheme to buff up Jack's college applications is for them both to volunteer as youth soccer coaches, but when one player's sister comes on to Jack WAY too hard, Jack blurts that he's gay and immediately wishes he hadn't. Put your feet up -- pickles and ice cream optional -- and join us for our episode on "A Family Way"!

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DC S04.E05: A Family Way

Ms. Watson, the new guidance counselor, is meeting with all the seniors about, what else, their college plans. Andie, of course, has gone the early action route, so her schedule is clear to start harassing Jack about his plans -- which were already pretty vague even before he took a bad jump at football practice and dislocated his shoulder. Joey is confident about the prestigious schools she's looking at until Ms. Watson tells her that ranking fourth in her class is no guarantee of anything and a full scholarship anywhere is probably an impossible dream. Dawson is annoyed that everyone expects him to go to film school when there's so much more to him! Maybe! Pacey isn't even bothering to think about it. Jen is mainly focused on getting Drue to leave her alone, which isn't going to happen any time soon: he's told everyone it's her birthday and is throwing a rager in her honor. Yay, Drunk Joey's back! Your present just got better because we've brought you an episode on "Future Tense"!

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DC S04.E04: Future Tense

We’re off this week but we bring you two Again With Again With This episodes full of first daughters.

AWAWT 190: Let's Watch Monica Keena And Doug Savant In First Daughter (1999)!

1999's TBS "action" movie First Daughter has a lot of hilariously fake stunts and log-like acting from Mariel Hemingway and Dominic Purcell (with hair!) -- but Monica Keena and Doug Savant bring more dimension and ease to their performances than we probably had the right to expect. Listen now for more on late-nineties tech and unrealistically outdoorsy teens!

AWAWT 191: Let's Watch Katie Holmes And Melissa Rivers In First Daughter (2004)!

Dawson's Creek girls STAY playing presidents' defiant daughters: just one week after we considered Monica Keena in the role in 1999's First Daughter, Katie Holmes and Buffy The Vampire Slayer star Marc Blucas bring us their romcom take on what it's like to be a teen girl with a father who's running the free world. Put a pin in any thorny questions you may have about anyone's domestic policies and join us!

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Special: Let's Watch Two First Daughterseses!

The worst storm in 30 years is on its way to Capeside, and no one seems to know but Grams and the editors of the Farmer's Almanac. Drue's obnoxious behavior in English class having doomed himself, Joey, and Dawson to have a three-way Two Gentlemen Of Verona debate for class the next day, prep is underway during Joey's Yacht Club shift. (Why are the future debate adversaries preparing together? It's more convenient for the plot that way, of course!) Presumably Joey's only getting away with all this slacking because Mrs. Valentine is an alumna of one of Andie's safety schools, and is busy interviewing Andie as a prospective applicant; their conversation quickly becomes an investigation of Andie's mental health. Since Joey couldn't join him, Pacey is celebrating his first-ever A by going sailing with Jen, which is why they're on the water -- with a dead radio -- when the storm starts to kick up. Once it gets too dangerous for Pacey to try to return to shore, he decides to head for a cove so secret he doesn't even know its name, but trusts that Dawson does. But given Dawson's record as a seaman, surely there's no one left in town who would let him borrow his boat, which is why it's a good thing that crotchety old Mr. Brooks (Harve Presnell!) showed up in his for his weekly prime rib special at the club, and that Drue knows where to find his spare keys. Find out whether anyone gets washed away in The Perfect Storm with our episode on "Two Gentlemen Of Capeside"!

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DC S04.E03: Two Gentlemen Of Capeside

When Peter makes a whole scene at the not-jazz club keeping Lexi from telling Amanda what she knows about Peter, Kyle figures out that he might be able to confirm his vague suspicions about Peter by joining forces with her, even going to her fake office to arm-grab her about it. Lexi keeps it to herself...for now. When Kyle's not laser-focused on taking Peter down, he's taking down Eve, a Lilith Fair manquée trying to book a gig at the club. When she collapses in the parking lot downstairs, Amanda takes an uncharacteristic interest in her. Ryan's interest is still on Megan: refusing to take no for an answer when he asks her out, he forces her to bring Lexi as a chaperone on the date he bullies her into accepting. And Michael is STILL suspicious that Jane is going to cheat on him with Alex, and sets traps to try to prove himself right, some more. Listen to our latest episode to hear all about "Not Quite All About Eve"!

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MP S07.E11: Not Quite All About Eve

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