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Casey Liss

John Siracusa

Marco Arment

Accidental Tech Podcast

• Pre-show: Snowpocalypse is coming for Casey

 • 🗣️ New 
ATP Member’s • Special: 
ATP Tier List: Automotive Logos • 🗣️

 • Follow-up: 

 • We’ll talk TCL/Sony next week! 

Gruber’s post

Top Dogs is coming
 • “Cloud technology”? 

Google’s blog post
Gurman’s post • 

 • Clipboard hijacking 

It’s an Apple thing
No, really

 • Indonesia is not small

 • MainStage is not new (via 
Mike Taffet • et al) 

Interview

 • Apple’s 
Pro Apps Bundle • still exists for education users (via 
Pekka Salonen • )

 • Pro apps free trials 

 • Prior art (via 
Karoline • )

 • The trials are full versions (via 
Ian Robinson • )

 • Monitors at CES 

 • DisplayPort alternate mode for USB-C

 • What about color accuracy? 

Extended Display Identification Data

ProMotion in Safari • 

 • iOS: 
Settings • → 
Apps • → 
Safari • → 
Advanced • → 
Feature Flags
Test

 • macOS window management apps (via 
Ben • ) 

FlashSpace
AltTab

 • Vision Pro 
does • have Keynote

 • Icons in Tahoe menus 

Nikita Prokopov
Jim Nielsen
Colin M. Ford • (and 
an explanation • )

Apple’s guidelines

You don’t have bad aim; it’s Tahoe
How to prevent Tahoe update nags • 

Many Tricks
Device management profiles
Actually it’s a bug 🤭

 • Ask ATP: 

 • Was Alan Dye a better or worse steward of software design that Jony Ive? (via 
Austin • )

 • Will Alan Dye’s departure effect a touchscreen MacBook Pro? (via Tom Armstrong)

 • What is our favorite macOS style? (via 
Nate • ) 

macOS Screenshot Library

 • Post-show: John’s migration continues 

John’s Fastmail referral link
Cron
Namecheap
Cloudflare
Claude Code
MiniDV
StatusBoard
Grafana
Prometheus
CandyBar

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Fender’s first wireless headphones • 

The Verge coverage
Demo video
Sony WH-1000XM6
Auracast • 

Wikipedia

Sony MDR-7506

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675: Open, Retrieve, Expand, Load

• Pre-show: Casey’s dreams were squashed 

Ubiquiti Travel Router
Verizon Jetpack
Marco’s hotspot • (newer models exist; check for refurbs, they’re 
way • cheaper than new)

Solis Edge

 • Follow-up: 

 • The 
Grim Reaper • FiOS 
CableCARD email • came for John 

TiVo Roamio Pro
Casey on Downstream

 • Temporal dithering (via Kyle Foreman)

 • Dagnabbit, the screen count is just too damn high 

MSI MEG Vision X • (
Screen grab • )

MSI Lightning RTX 5090 • (
Screen grab • )

 • Wi-Fi channel selection & size

Wi-Fi 7 8

 • A tour of Apple- (or John-) relevant monitors from CES 

 • As a reminder… 

Apple Studio Display
Pro Display HDR

MSI MPG 271KRAW16
DisplayHDR 1400 certification
MSI MAG 271KPD7 • 

Monitors Unboxed

ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG27UCWM • (
Photo • ) 

HDTVTest

Subpixel arrangements

Apple Creator Studio • 

Icons over time
Photomator • lives on… for now (via 
Chris Welch • ) 

MacRumors

Apple’s defense of the icons
Jason on iWork freemium

Apple 🤝🏻 Google • 

More from The Information

Chase to become the new issuer of Apple Card • 

FAQ
Back story on the Wall Street Journal • (
Apple News • )

 • Post-show: 
NBA Immersive • 

Stratechery
Dithering

Members-only • ATP Overtime: The continuing disaster at Twitter 

 • Elizabeth Lopatto: 
Tim Cook and Sundar Pichai are cowards
 • Dan Moren: 
Apple cowardly still has not pulled X and Grok from the App Store
 • Bloomburg: 
Musk’s Grok AI blocked in Indonesia, Malaysia over sexual images
 • Robert Hart & Jess Weatherbed: 
X hasn’t really stopped Grok AI from undressing women in the UK

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674: A Reliable, Boring Partner

• Pre-show: Casey has a question for Marco 

LivePhish
Goose on Bandcamp
Nugs

 • Thank you, 
ATP Patrons • !

 • Follow-up: 

 • Cord-cutting 

Casey on Downstream
suppose.tv

 • Multi-select in iOS Contacts.app (via many, including 
Simon Ljungberg • )

 • The 
Studio Display • is $1600 (via 
Greg Seay • ) 

Quinn’s video on making a 5K display

 • Display flickering (via Stephen Perelson) 

This started in late 2020 with Big Sur
Temporal dithering • (AKA Frame rate control)

Stillcolor • to disable temporal dithering on macOS

BetterDisplay • for turning on and off GPU dithering 

Docs

PlayStation Portal • 

 • …works with 
PlayStation Plus
 • …but 
really needs solid Wi-Fi
 • …and 
doesn’t support Wi-Fi 6
 • …and requires wired or first-party Bluetooth headphones

 • Double-tap title bar to 
Fill • (via 
Chirag Desai • ) 

Knowedge base
System Settings • → 
Desktop & Dock • → 
Window title bar double-click action • → 
Fill

 • Wi-Fi 7 

 • Ubiquiti’s Wi-Fi 7 implementation is not great (via 
Reid • ) 

WPA3

 • WPA3 is not well supported (via 
USB Type-Steve • )

 • Alternatively, try band steering (via Patch)

 • Wi-Fi Pro 
Abraham Vegh weighs in
 • …as does pro Saul Sutherland

 • John’s 
Eero Max 7 • setup

 • Thread vs. Matter 

Thread
Matter
Derek Seaman’s series
 • To run Matter in HA, you need a 
separate container

Apple Fitness+ and Quitter’s Day • 

Bodi

ASML • & 
TSMC • 

Extreme ultraviolet lithography
Veritasium: The Ridiculous Engineering of the World’s Most Important Machine
Asianometry: ASML: TSMC’s Critical Supplier, Explained • 

TSMC Analysis playlist

The Spectacular Failure of the Star Wars Hotel

 • Tech stuff we’re looking forward to in 2026 

Gartner hype cycle
The Trow of Disillusionment

 • Post-show: Casey 
bought something silly • 

Quinn’s video
GL i.Net
/r/ubiquiti
Teleport
Extremely dodgy firmware upgrade approach
Portainer

Members-only • ATP Overtime: Strange form factor rumors for forthcoming iPhones 

The Information
MacRumors
 • Mockup 
image • & 
video
Jason’s • & 
Stepen’s • posts

iPhone fold display quietly debuted at CES?

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673: Six Impossible Things

• Pre-show: 
Comply TrueGrip MAX for AirPods Pro 3 • 

Pepperidge Farm Remembers

 • Follow-up: 

 • Contacts 

 • Contact lists are a thing (via Dayton Lowell)

 • Some non-obvious complications (via Paul)

 • Face ID & Touch ID 

 • Older folks really do struggle with Touch ID (via Harrison Krebs & 
Kurt Schwind • )

 • Strictness (via Rob Sayre)

 • John’s Liquid Glass bug in macOS 26.2 (via 
Gui Rambo • ) 

Gui’s PR

 • Some more about Podcasts.app and background execution (also from Gui) 

FB17228659
Developer Technical Support

 • RAM shortage 

Verge article
Micron’s forthcoming fabs
Hynix’s approach • 

…and forthcoming fabs

Samsung’s approach
Thru-Silicon
The Vergecast RAM Holiday Spec-tacular

 • Data portability 

 • Git 

 • Github will still sink its talons into you (via 
Simon Jodet • )

 • Xcode 🤝 Git (via Tom Hartnett)

Android ↔ iOS

 • Display flicker in Tahoe 

 • What does this even mean? (via Daniel)

 • One theory (via 
Sean Santry • )

 • Some corroboration (via 
Philip Hofstetter • )

Wi-Fi 7 is a bust • 

-protonsandneutrons-
Playstation Portal

 • Ask ATP: 

 • What’s the difference between minimizing and hiding windows on macOS? (via Michael Krewson)

 • Post-show: What the heck is the deal with 
Thread • /
Matter • 

Home Assistant
Nanoleaf Smart String Lights
Lutron Caséta • (former sponsor)

YoLink

Members-only • ATP Overtime: 
iMac Pro… phoenix? • 

Previous code name discussion
Jason on Apple’s display strategy

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672: Wi Hyphen Fi

• Pre-show: Christmas-slideshow time

 • Follow-up: 

Paris Buttfield-Addison’s locked Apple ID • 

🇦🇺 ACCC: Consumer Rights & Guarnatees
🇺🇸: Remember when we had a CFPB?

 • Chat math

 • Metadata thread splitting & merging

 • Colin spells it out for us 

TV Everywhere
XMLTV
m3u8
IPTV Github Repo
 • 🚨 Proceed with caution 🚨 
StreamEast
506 Sports

 • Custom pronunciations in iOS 

Accessibility • → 
VoiceOver • → 
Speech • → 
Pronunciations • 

See Apple support

Accessibility • → 
Read & Speak • → 
Pronunciations • 

See Apple support

Apple video guide

Tahoe Studio Display flickering
 • Malicious content delivery in Apple Podcasts 

Previously 1
Previously 2

iPhone roadmap • 

Article on The Information

iPhone XX rumor roundup • 

Under-screen FaceID?
Haptic buttons?

Apple exploring touch-sensitive iPhone cases • 

Patent

 • Ask ATP: 

 • How do we manage our contacts? (via 
Tyler Kindy • )

 • How do we use version control? (via Dmitry Myronenko)

 • 🗣️ Remember, 
ATP gift memberships • are a thing!

 • Post-show: 
John’s bug • 

 • FB21375029

Sample project

Members-only • ATP Overtime: RAM shortage, or the flip-side of the Apple Intelligence RAM dividend 

Sam Altman’s dirty DRAM deal
RAM is ruining everything
It-hurts-because-it’s-true wisecrack by ziplyne
The RAM shortage is here to stay
Chipwrecked

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671: Even Apple Can’t Beat the Sun

• Pre-show: Marco joins team snow tires 

i3 • : 155/70R19

XC90 • : 275/40R21

Molex
F-150 Lightning’s demise

 • 🗣️ Remember, 
ATP gift memberships • are a thing!

 • 🗣️ New 
ATP Members • Special: 
ATP Movie Club: WarGames • 

WarGames

 • Follow-up: 

 • Some impromptu spoiler-free follow-up about the member’s special

 • John’s 
Cloudflare • update 

Hypercritical

 • Marco’s former TV (via 
Wayne Morgan • )

 • Apple executive departures 

 • Jeff Williams has been nominated to join Disney’s board 

Press release
The Verge

 • Would Johnny Srouji consider Rivian? What about NVIDIA?

 • Apple 2030 & carbon credits (via Zach)

 • Split iMessage groups (via 
sirshannon • )

 • AI-generated voice-matched dubbing 

Fran Besora • tried the Spanish version

Stefanus Secundus • tried the German version

Ben Mattison • had an 
odd YouTube experience

 • Siri and pronunciations (via 
Paul Zadunajsky • )

 • Intel 
stealing • learning from chips it fabs 

 • Thread by 
Joe Lion • 

VHDL

 • Jason Biatek points out this is all basically cryptography 

Galois blog post

 • Migrate Purchases (via James Wilby)

Paris Buttfield-Addison got locked out of his Apple ID… because of a gift card • 

Casey’s tangentially-related rant

Netflix to acquire Warner Brothers • 

Dominic Preston at The Verge
From the past: Blockbuster’s reaction to Netflix • 

Marc Randolph’s comment

Paramount launches hostile $108B bid • 

Elizabeth Lopatto at The Verge: Larry Ellison’s big dumb gift to his large adult son
Gruber’s take
As per Brian Stelter • , Netflix is prepared

More Paramount context from Charles Pulliam-Moore at The Verge • 

Emma Roth at The Verge: CBS News was just taken over by a Substack
Elizabeth Lopatto at The Verge: Memo to Bari Weiss Re: CBS News: You’re doomed

 • Post-show: Casey asks for programming help 

StoreKit2
UserDefaults
NotificationCenter
Singleton
Publisher
@Environment
Dependency injection
@EnvironmentObject

Members-only • ATP Overtime: The State of TV 

Verizon FiOS stabs John & Casey
CableCARD
PCMCIA
TiVo
Channels
HDHomeRun
TVEverywhere

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670: Institutionally Inescapable

• Pre-show: Casey has a giggle about central Virginia snow

 • Follow-up: 

Apple Fitness+ • is 
doing better than the Mac Pro • 

Workout Buddy
Previously with Jay Blahnik

 • More adventures with 
Cloudflare • 

jramskov’s observation
TLS Certificate lifetimes
 • Alternatively, 
GitHub Pages
 • Some thoughts from an anonymous Cloudflare employee 

Workers
Pages
R2
KV
Durable Objects

Oops… we broke it • 

Landon’s observation
5 December Outage • 

React.js vulnerability

 • Say my name, Siri! 

Siri response preferences • (via Jonathan Gulbrandsen) 

Screenshot

 • AirPods and Contacts (via Oren Idan)

 • We’re… uh… sorry. Our bad. 

Sean Santry
Reid Sorenson

 • iOS 26 rollout 📈 

Underscore on 20 November
Underscore on 8 December

 • Intel 🤝 Apple Commentary 

Tambourine Man
David Beck
Goffredo Marocchi • 

Previously on ATP
Srouji’s comments (timestamp link to 34m26s)
Maybe Intel will just do packaging?

Maybe iPhone chips too?

 • Gruber is… 
not a fan… of Alan Dye • 

Dye Was in Tim Cook’s Blind Spot

Apple’s revolving door keeps spinning • 

 • An anonymous observation

Gurman, 6 December
Gurman, 8 December
Gurman’s departing executive tracker image

 • Post-show: 

 • Messages conversation merging

 • A feature request

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Apple 2030
Apple commits to 100% carbon neutrality for supply chain & products by 2030 • (21 July 2020)

Carbon removal & offsets

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669: Ternus, Take the Wheel

• Pre-show: Marco has a 
new toy
 • Follow-up: 

Vision Pro Light Seal sizes decoded • 

Vision Pro Size Help tool

JPEG XL • lives… 
in PDF • 

Chromium ticket
jxl-rs: JPEG XL in Rust

 • Chapter links in Apple Podcasts 

Stephen Robles • on 
The Talk Show
Apple documentation
ATP on Threads

Malicious content delivery on Podcasts.app? • 

404 Media article

 • Everybody is leaving Apple 

John Giannandrea to retire from Apple • 

Amar Subramanya’s first-week experience at Microsoft

Alan Dye poached by Meta • 

Jason’s take

Cloudflare’s 18 November Outage • 

Cloudflare
Lets Encrypt
Hypercritical
Callsheet

 • Ask ATP: 

 • Why can’t Siri pronounce names correctly? (via 
Tony West • ) 

serra queue sah
Siri, what’s my full name

 • Post-show: 

 • What now, bagel snobs? 

BagelFest
Baltik’s Bagel: People’s Choice award
Baltik’s Bagel
Coverage from the NY metro area

Bullstrap Minimalist Case

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Intel 18A vs. TSMC N2
MTr/mm²

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668: So Happy for All Parties Involved

• Pre-show: Marco bought a new toy 

ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It II
Bryan’s toot • 

pen.tips
Paperlike 3
Paperlike Pencil Tips

 • Follow-up: 

 • macOS Tahoe 26.2 β3 seems to fix Electon slowdown (per 
shamelectron • )

Gurman says “not so fast, my friend”
 • Gaming in ARM 

 • Anti-cheat complications (via 
Tyler • )

 • Windows 11 on ARM (via David Gaw)

OpenAI Egg update • 

Interview video
Fred T

Apple N1 > Broadcom
 • An iPhone camera cluster theory

The UK is still trying to make fetch happen get themselves a back door • 

Financial Times

Apple Fitness+ is “Under Review”
Fast charging & battery health • 

Juli Clover summary @ MacRumors

 • Ask ATP: 

 • Now that Marco owns a restaurant, does he tip differently? (via Max Velasco Knott)

 • What do we think about third-party packages? (via Eric Jacobsen) 

swift-collections
swift-async-algorithms
CPAN
Flow

 • Is organizing 
/Applications • a poor choice? (via Nathan)

 • Are our kids better than we are at video games yet? (via Omri Arbiv) 

Ultimate Chicken Horse
SongPop Party
UltraKill
Universal Paperclips
Cookie Clicker

 • Post-show: The saga of Overcast episode images 

Core Intuition
Linode Object Storage
CloudFlare R2

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forced • to put away our phones? (via Philip McDermott)

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667: Wisdom and Treachery

• 🗣️ New 
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 • Follow-up: 

 • The origin of “diamond dogs” (via 
Jared Counts • ) 

Wikipedia

 • Matte, glossy, glass, and nanotexture (via Johnny “Decimal” Noble) 

Paperlike
Rock Paper Pencil

 • Steam Machine 

EuroGamer article about APU/GPU • (via 
DavidShaub • )

 • PlayStation 5 OS is FreeBSD-based (via 
Jesús Santaigo Narváez • ) 

Wikipedia
PS Dev Wiki

 • Steam Frame 

 • Lenses (via 
Michael • )

Spec chart • (via 
James O’Loughlin • )

Top strap image
 • Steam → Apple Vision Pro using 
ALVR • (via Iain Wallace) 

Guide on Reddit

 • SteamOS 

 • Is not universally supported (via 
DavidSchaub • )

 • Alternatives (via 
solmnmagus • ) 

Bazzite
CachyOS

 • Anti-cheat considerations (via Julian Torres)

Screw it, I’m installing Linux

 • Steam strategy 

 • Is Steam-on-ARM popular? 

Hardware survey • (via 
Lars Boris • ) 

Additional thoughts from Ava

 • Steam has only one person to answer to (via 
charlesesmith • )

Single thread performance ranking • (via 
Steven Op de beeck • )

 • “High-Res Antiglare” (via Adam Wunn)

 • John mourns 
the recent news • 

 • GPU issues (via 
Colin Cornaby • )

 • GeekBench Metal scores 

Mac Pro (2019) + AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT
Mac Studio (2025) + M3 Ultra

The Case for a True Mac Pro Successor

 • Tim Cook to step down as early as next year 

Tim Cook & Kara Swisher in 2021 • (starts at 35:51) 

 • As discussed in 
ATP #425: Hey Billionaire

Financial Times, 14 November 2025
Gruber’s take
Joe Rossignol @ Mac Rumors • 

Apple Corporate Governance Guidelines • 

 • Post-show: Declan discovers “
HyperCard • ” 

Rage-baiting

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The App Store on the web • 

Dan Moren @ Six Colors
MJ Tsai
Apple shipped its source maps • 

Svelte • 

 • See also: 
Apple Maps on the web • 

Announcement

 • See also: 
Apple Podcasts on the web • 

Juli Clover @ MacRumors

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666: We Have Nothing That Hot

• John's cheese-grater update

NiCad battery
NiCad battery example
 • 

Hunt's 100% Natural Tomato Ketchup
Heinz Ketchups
 • 

 • More on Apple Card

Opting out of arbitration for Apple Card
Apple Card has no web interface
 • 

 • Follow-up: JSON streaming

Length-prefixed JSON
Line-delimited JSON
 • 

Upgrade bets on Marco and John buying the Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR
Overcast timestamp link
 • 

 • Apple at 
Black Hat
Announcement summary
 • 

Apple laptops can turn on by any key or track pad press
New LG UltraFine 5K Display
#askatp • :

 • What non-Apple tech makes us happy/excited? (via Colin Devroe)

BMW i3
BMW i8
Nissan Leaf
Zoom F6
Sound Devices
DJI Osmo Mobile 3
GoPro
Honda Accord
Sony Cameras
 • 

 • Do we use portrait orientation lock on our iPads & iPhones? (via Tom Tubbs)

 • Introducing children to video games, and the correct order of Zelda games (via [the other] David Sparks)

Andy Baio's approach
OpenEmu
 • 

 • 

 • Post-show: 
Automattic buying Tumblr
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