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Casey Liss

John Siracusa

Marco Arment

Accidental Tech Podcast

• 🗣️ It’s 
St. Jude • time again! 🗣️ 

The Marco Offset

iPhone event • 

AirPods Pro 3
Apple Watch Series 11 • 

No new System-in-Package?
Whoop Band

Apple Watch SE 3
Apple Watch Ultra 3 • 

LTPO
Satellite can-kicking continues

iPhone 17 • 

Memory Integrity Enforcement

iPhone Air • 

iPhone Air MagSafe Battery • 💔

iPhone 17 Pro & Pro Max
 • Software ship dates

 • Post-show: 

Apple trade-in
 • ✨ Tina’s dream has come true! ✨

Members-only • ATP Overtime: Apple’s competing implementations for the new Siri 

Gurman, 13 August
Gurman, 22 August
Gurman, 3 September

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656: A Long T-Shirt

• Pre-Show: Trouble in 
Razer • paradise

 • 🗣️ It’s 
St. Jude • time again! 🗣️ 

The Marco Offset

 • Follow-up: 

 • Casey has thoughts about the compact iOS 26 controls in Safari 

Settings • → 
Apps • → 
Safari

 • Apple device advice for those that are 
athletically engaged • 

 • Place your phone face-down (via. A. O.)

 • Sleep focus is an option (via A. M.)

 • So is 
Theater Mode • and, if taps are an issue, 
water lock • (via Ryan)

How to stop Siri from randomly activating all the damn time • by D. Griffin Jones

 • Fun fact: you can add it to the Health app! (via 
Niv Ben-Porath • ) 

…but it won’t affect your rings

 • A truly hilarious story from Anonymous

 • Developing “product sense” (via Joseph Kibe) 

Productive Tensions by Christopher B. Bingham & Rory M. McDonald

 • iPhone 16 exit interview 

Peltier device
Obscura
Halide

iPhone event preview • 

Crossbody strap
Apple Natural Titanium Milanese Loop • (Marco’s summer watch band)

 • Post-show: Smaller e-ink note-taking tablets 

reMarkable Paper Pro Move • 

The Verge’s coverage
Ars Technica’s coverage

Supernote Nomad
iFLYTEK AINOTE Air 2
Viwoods AiPaper Mini

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US government buys 10% of Intel • 

Ars Technica
New York Times
The Verge
Intel self-announces all the red flags

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655: Shorts-Compatible Body Type

• Pre-Show: Casey and Marco are sad 

Ben Rice McCarthy
Under the Radar

 • Follow-up: 

 • 🗣️ It’s 
St. Jude • time again! 🗣️ 

The Marco Offset

 • Anonymous crushes the dreams of Marco and Casey about cellular MacBooks

 • Another Anonymous shares a bit too much information about accidental Siri activations 😆

 • 🤬 John’s AppleCare One update 🤬

 • Help with Trackpad dragging 

System Settings • → 
Accessibility • → 
Pointer Control • → 
Trackpad Options… • → 
Dragging Style • → 
Three Finger Drag • 

Screenshot

 • …or 
Drag Lock

Masimo comes for [more] blood
UK drops utterly bananas backdoor legislation
 • Studio Display with A19 

Daniel Luz points out • makes a funny comparison to Macs

Fabian Häusler • theorizes it’s about binning

 • Apple’s 
Hide my Email • feature 

 • An unexpected wrinkle Timothy Martin points out

 • Anecdote from 
David Beck

Apple Event • : 9 September 1PM OTTZ 

Interactive logo • 

Still image for posterity

 • Reverse-engineering by 
sam henri gold

“TechWoven” • and 
“Liquid Silicone” • cases leaked 

Maijin Bu on TechWoven
 • …and on 
Liquid Silicone • (and 
again • )

Apple will simplify the Camera Control button
 • Ask ATP: 

 • What’s the ∆ between snapshots and backups? (via 
Phil Hirst • ) 

Hyperspace

 • Why is Finder slow to delete files? (via Dan)

 • How will Apple reconcile AI and carbon neutrality? (via 
Sam Hunt • )

 • Post-show: Some venting about politics and 𝓍26. 

Jeff Atwood’s post
John’s reply
There’s nothing Republicans won’t ruin

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Rumored Apple roadmap • 

Apple readies first upgrade to its struggling Vision Pro headset

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654: Athletically Engaged

• Pre-Show: AI slop vs. not… so… AI… slop 

AITAH

 • Follow-up: 

 • Casey spends 24 hours with iOS 26 on his carry phone 

John’s dancing controls

 • ☝️ Well, actually ☝️, 
myriad of • is okay (via 
Jason Eccles • ) 

Merriam-Webster’s take

 • Are 
size classes • similar to today’s design changes? (via Bryan Guffey) 

Auto Layout

 • John’s HomePod has risen from the dead! 

Nic’s Fix
Watch John’s actual repair happen

 • 🍿 John would like to air 
some AppleCare One grievances • 🍿 

John’s tantrum
AppleCare One Terms & Conditions

Blood oxygen with Apple Watch [sorta] returns to the US • 

Gruber’s take
Victoria Song at The Verge

 • 😳🥳 
M5 MacBook Pro with cellular is coming‽ • 🎉😳

A19 Pro in Studio Display 2? • 

Previously, in low-cost MacBook rumors: A18 Pro

Your Mac game is probably rendering blurry • 

CGDisplayCopyAllDisplayModes()
 • FB13375033

 • Ask ATP: 

 • Should the name “Siri” be retired? (via 
Aaron Bushnell • )

 • Did 
Vehicle Motion Cues • help John? (via Roly C.)

 • How do we click our trackpads? (via Eli)

 • Post-show: Oh yeah! 🗣️ New 
ATP Members • special: 
ATP Insider: Vacations • 🗣️

Members-only • ATP Overtime: Apple’s research into using LLMs to make UIs 

Apple trained a LLM to teach itself good SwiftUI
Research paper
Stephen Robles’ video

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653: Warning Stories

• Pre-Show: Marco and Casey’s no-good, very bad days.

 • Follow-up: 

 • Casey didn’t read the fine print on Express Replacement 🤦🏻‍♂️ 

Short Pump

 • John cycled 
his mouse • again

 • AppleCare One 

 • Moving a device on a payment plan (via “
Clark Griswold • ” and Anonymous)

 • Tina’s iPhone

Tina’s Mac Studio

 • Tahoe beta 5: 
checkbox contrast improves
 • iOS 26 beta 6 
Liquid glass changes
 • Smart TV interfaces over time 

“Shortcut”
New Magic Remote

 • Running your own mail server 

 • How does 
iCloud-on-your-domain • work? (via 
potato.zip • )

Hide my Email • (via 
Peter Puleio • )

Jason Diller thinks it’s not so bad

 • Post-quantum cryptography 

Harvest now, decrypt later • (via Lisa Ugray)

 • Since iOS 17.4 for iMessage (via 
Saul Sutherland • ) 

Apple Security Research blog post

 • Compelled adoption (via Brian Jarvis)

 • Chrome adopted it in 2024 (via 
sayrer • ) 

 • 2024: 
State of post-quantum internet
 • 2025: 
Update

 • John wages war against icons 

Adopting Liquid Glass: App Icons
WWDC 2025 #361: Create Icons with Icon Composer
John’s Mastodon thread • 

Václav Slavík’s solution
 • FB19437407

 • FB19497128

 • FB17892659

 • There’s likely to be a lot more of 
this

 • Ask ATP: 

 • Is Liquid Glass on macOS a subtle move toward touchscreen Macs? (via Daniel Liu)

 • How does one build a “good product sense”? (via Ian Anderson) 

Inspired by Marty Cagan

 • How does one effectively de-duplicate photos using Photos.app? (via Keith Heaton)

 • Post-show: Marco’s air-conditioning “update”

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Apple’s Upcoming AI Voice Control will Change how People Use iPhones

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652: You Have 24 Hours to Comply

• Pre-Show: 

 • Brief vacation results

Tim Cook kisses the… ring • 

Video

 • Follow-up: 

HDTVTest reviews Sony Bravia 8 II • and 
Panasonic Z95B
TV shootout results • 

Nilay’s comments

AppleCare One • 

iCareCalculator Reddit post • (removed by moderators)

iCare Calculator web app
 • John’s experience

B&H • 

Casey’s roughly equivalent Mac • , available for special order

 • Retro computing corner 

Revisiting eWorld

 • More on Tahoe 

 • Gus Mueller 

…on checkboxes
…on sliders

 • Beta 5 
improves selection legibility

 • Ejecting USB storage in Windows (via Justin Bradford) 

Bleeping computer

 • Art & science of UI design 

 • Game design concepts in software (via Wes Davis)

iPhone 17’s rumored new MagSafe design • 

Majin Bu
iPhone 16

Apple’s “Answers” team
 • Ask ATP: 

 • How can one improve the experience of a permanent-mount SSD on a laptop? 

Jettison

 • Why is Xcode so thirsty? (via Geoff) 

Time Machine local snapshots • 

Deleting snapshots with Disk Utility

DevCleaner • (App Store link)

Github
GrandPerspective
Disk Inventory X
DaisyDisk

 • How are we dealing with spam? (via Alan Bailward) 

SpamSieve
MailRoute
Fastmail

 • Post-show: Apple Express Replacement

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Post-Quantum Cryptography • networking in the 𝓍26 OSes 

Prepare your network for quantum-secure encryption in TLS

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651: Your Judgement About Pockets

• Pre-Show: Casey’s french-fry problem

 • Follow-up: 

D. Griffin Jones takes one for the team • 

 • Casey’s struggles with 
iperf3 • 

Tutorial
iperf3 -t 60 -c {ip} -P 4 -i 10 -R

 • John’s new toaster and 
E01 • (via 
J-P Teti • & John F.)

 • Chemical vs. physical sunscreen (via Prodan Statev) 

Research paper

 • Apple security for unreleased devices

 • Low-cost Apple laptop (via 
Jason Anthony Guy • ) 

Ed: Please don’t give Apple ideas like this. 🫣

 • Getting customer support from Apple (via Patch) 

Apple support app • → Chat

 • Any retail store on Apple Maps → 
... • → 
Message

 • CloudFlare & AI crawlers 

 • Thoughts from Thomas Schoffelen

 • Thoughts from Aaron Zinck

 • Thoughts from Anonymous 

JA3/JA4 fingerprint

The 𝓍26 public betas are out • 

Under the Radar #323: The Tidal Wave

 • Tahoe beta 4 

 • Contrast will decrease until morale improves 

Startup disk selection (cropped)
Startup disk selection (full)

News summaries are back, baby! • 😬

 • Apple and interfaces 

 • Tog in Interface (1992) 

Amazon
NNG

 • Tog on Software Design (1995) 

Amazon
NNG

Apple’s Aqua introduction, Macworld San Francisco, 2000

AppleCare One • 

Dan Moren’s take
The Verge
Fees & deductibles
FAQ • (scroll way down)

 • Post-show: John has an addendum to his earlier topic

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Frame of preference • , an incredible exploration of the Mac’s settings by 
Marcin Wichary • in concert with 
Mihai Parparita • of the 
Infinite Mac Project • 

Marcin’s announcement
Mihai’s associated announcement
Embed Infinite Mac
Infinite Mac Construction Set

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650: Whatever It Takes to Get the Laundry Folded

• Pre-Show: Casey did Marco’s favorite thing 

CalDigit TS5+ • (affiliate link)

CalDigit TS5+ • (product page)

iperf3

 • Follow-up: 

F1 • (the sport, not 
the movie • ) 

Apple expected to win 🇺🇸 rights • 

F1 TV
Vroom

John’s video • != 
Casey’s immersive ride-along • 

To see the immersive ride-along, you need to be wearing a Vision Pro; scroll down on that link

John’s toaster • update

 • AirPods & AppleCare+ 

Keratoconus
Water resistance • 

IP54

AirPods Express Replacement Service
B&H

 • Reverting to “normal” tabs in Tahoe (via 
ST-S • ) 

defaults write -g NSSolariumWindowTabs -bool NO

 • Low-cost Apple laptop with 
A18 Pro • 

mandonam

Apple sues leaker Jon Prosser for stealing iOS secrets • 

99% Invisible #626: Emoji Law
Gruber’s theorized redactions
Gruber’s predictions

Cloudflare Declares Content Independence Day • 

Press release
ChangeDetection.io
Stratechery • (paywalled)

 • Post-show: Marco solved sunscreen 

John’s hat that he likes
John’s hat that is cheaper but that he likes less
 • 🇯🇵 Skin Aqua Super Moisture UV Gel (
eBay • )

 • 🇪🇺 La Roche-Posay Anthelios UVmune 400 Invisible Fluid, Non-Perfumed (
eBay • )

Australian sunscreen video

Members-only • ATP Overtime: Is copying Apple hardware a good idea? 

Kuycon G32P 6K 32” IPS monitor • 

Video review by Oliur / UltraLinx

ASUS 32” 6K ProArt display • 

Previously on ATP overtime
D. Griffin Jones’ review of the 5K

Studio Display Mark II coming in early 2026?

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649: Prove It With Cameras

• Pre-Show: Live music & failed air conditioners

 • 🗣️ New 
ATP Members • Special: 
Tier List: Pizza Toppings
 • Follow-up: 

Meta Hires Top Apple AI Models Executive
SFSymbols 🤝🏻 Tahoe Folders • 

 • Standard SFSymbol: 
xattr -w 'com.apple.icon.folder#S' '{"sym":"camera.viewfinder"}' folder
 • Private SFSymbol: 
xattr-w 'com.apple.icon.folder#S' '{"sym":"solar.system"}' folder
 • Random string: 
xattr -w 'com.apple.icon.folder#S' '{"emoji": "HIMOM"}' folder
 • FB18022272: “summary” symbol missing in SF Symbols 7 developer beta

 • Toolbars 

 • Safari 

Beta 1 image
Beta 3 image
The Guardian • (good example for messing around with the toolbar)

 • Terminal 

Beta 1 image
Beta 3 image

iOS 26 Beta 3 • 

Direct video link
_David Smith’s beta 2 (?) video
Stephen Hackett’s beta 3 video
Matt Birchler: Liquid glass, now with frosted tips
Steve Troughton-Smith pours water on the fire

YouTube’s new player UI
“Clear” iPhone mock-up was by Gavin Nelson in April 2025
 • HDR controls in iOS 26 (via Gui Rambo) 

Demo project

✌️ out, Jeff Williams • 

Gruber
Gurman

 • Casey ponders the purpose of AppleCare 

Casey in Dongletown

 • Post-show: John & Casey review 
F1 • 

Plumber Problem
Guenther Steiner
Brad Pitt drives a F1 car for the first time
Vision Pro Brad Pitt ride-along • (Vision Pro users, scroll down)

Casey’s pinball machine

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John Giannandrea

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648: Part of the Movement

• Pre-Show: John’s almost an empty-nester 😱 

Reconcilable Differences

 • Follow-up: 

 • FireWire 
now with Thunderbolt! • (via 
Timo Hetzel • )

 • Tahoe without Xcode beta: 
Device Support for macOS 26 Beta • 

Developer downloads
 • ↳ 
Direct link

 • Putting older OSes on newer hardware (via Gui Rambo)

UPS • 
VA • ratings (via Marshall C)

Apple’s LLM/LRM paper • (from Overtime in 
ATP #643 • ) 

 • Training data vs. distribution (via 
Deon Garrett • )

Rebuttal
Rebuttal of the rebuttal
More from Gary Marcus
The original rebuttal was… a joke? 🤨

 • HDR in 𝑥26

 • iPadOS 26 window limits

“Glass iPhone” demo • 

 • ↳ 
Direct video link

 • That “natural language to CLI” app is 
Substage

Apple plans to launch a low-cost MacBook powered by… an iPhone CPU‽ • 

Apple A18
References spotted in code
Jason on A18 speed
Stephen on the technical limitations

 • Ask ATP: 

 • Is adding permanent 
NVMe • storage a bad plan? (via Neil) 

CalDigit TS5+

 • What’s the best way to increase “internal” storage on a Mac? 
iSCSI • ? 
Mounted disc images? • (via Patrick Harms) 

Atto Xtend SAN

 • How does a new grad land a job?

 • Post-show: Casey’s approach to ad-free YouTube must be dissected 

YouTube Premium Lite

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Apple’s App Store changes for the EU • 

Jason’s coverage • 

Store Services tiers in the EU

Gruber’s summary
Cranky man remains cranky
Steve Troughton-Smith’s take
The Verge

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647: You Get One Exclamation Point

• Follow-up:

WWDC Intro Video
 • It was 
Stephen Fry • channeling 
David Attenborough
 • A perspective from 
Jen Simmons
Feminist Frequency
 • 

It's Road Trip!
 • 

 • RIP, other chat networks in 
Messages.app • (via 
Sam Gross • )

 • APFS snapshotting and iOS Simulator parallel testing (via 
Renaud Leinhart • )

 • How's the 
iOS 12 beta • ?

 • Stereo HomePod pair review

Jeff Foxworthy
Paradigm Atom
Zac Hall • provides RTFU 
1 • 
2
 • 

 • More on iOS 12

MeasureKit
 • FaceID & "Alternative Appearance"

 • 

 • macOS 10.14 Mojave: Possibly The John Siracusa Review

Mojave's Dark Mode
Stephen Hackett's article
 • 

Notarized apps
 • Safari

Most favored nation
Using the Safari Extension Builder
 • 

 • 

#askatp
 • What are essential Mac apps for novices? (via 
Rodrigo Palau • )

Casey's Mac install checklist
 • 

 • Could iMessage for Android exist? (via 
Jack Johnson • )

 • Streamed gaming is the new hotness; are consoles going away? (via 
Mustapha Hamoui • )

PlayStation Now
OnLive
GeForce Now
 • 

 • 

 • Post-show: Casey quit his job

Casey's blog post
Analog(ue) #134: Running Toward a Better Future
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