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Paris Marx


Silicon Valley wants to shape our future, but why should we let it? Every Thursday, Paris Marx is joined by a new guest to critically examine the tech industry, its big promises, and the people behind them. Tech Won’t Save Us challenges the notion that tech alone can drive our world forward by showing that separating tech from politics has consequences for us all, especially the most vulnerable. It’s not your usual tech podcast.


Tech Won't Save Us

Paris Marx is joined by Liz Pelly to discuss how Spotify changes how we listen to music and the broader impacts it has on the wider music industry.

Liz Pelly is a music journalist and the author of Mood Machine.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham.

Also mentioned in this episode:

 • You can read 
an excerpt • of Liz’s book in Harper’s.
 • The CEO of Suno AI said people “
don’t enjoy • ” making music.

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How Spotify Remade the Music Industry w/ Liz Pelly

Our Data Vampires series may be over, but Paris interviewed a bunch of experts on data centers and AI whose insights shouldn’t go to waste. We’re releasing those interviews as bonus episodes for Patreon supporters. Here’s a preview of this week’s premium episode with Aurora Gomez Delgado of Tu Nube Seca Mi Río. For the full interview, support the show on Patreon.

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Patreon Preview: Spain Doesn’t Have Water for Data Centers w/ Aurora Gomez Delgado

Paris Marx is joined by Amanda Mull to discuss the data-informed decisions that are changing the way we all experience air travel, mostly for the worse. 

Amanda Mull is a senior reporter and Buying Power columnist at Bloomberg Businessweek.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry.

Also mentioned in this episode:

 • Amanda wrote about the 
changing flying experience • for Bloomberg and the 
big investments being made in airport lounges • for The Atlantic.
 • Legacy airlines are 
taking budget customers • with the ultracheap fares.
 • In the US, budget airlines are 
beginning to offer premium seats • and other amenities to attract more premium customers.

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How Data Is Changing Air Travel w/ Amanda Mull

Paris Marx is joined by Molly White, Brian Merchant, and Eric Wickham to discuss the highs and lows (mostly lows) of this year in tech news.

Molly White is the creator of Web3 is Going Just Great and Follow the Crypto. Brian Merchant is my co-host on System Crash, a new podcast we’re hosting. He’s also a longtime tech journalist and author of Blood in the Machine. Eric Wickham is the producer for Tech Won’t Save Us, along with a bunch of other podcast, and an independent journalist.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry.

Also mentioned in this episode:

 • Molly joined Brian and Paris on 
System Crash • .
 • Peter Thiel made 
some dumb remarks • about Luigi Mangione on the Piers Morgan show while looking very shiny.
 • Apple sold 
fewer than half a million • Vision Pro headsets this year.

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The Year in Tech w/ Molly White, Brian Merchant, & Eric Wickham

Paris Marx is joined by Ali Alkhatib to discuss the difficulty of holding the AI industry accountable and why sometimes it makes sense for people to destroy AI systems that are harming them.

Ali Alkhatib works with Logic(s) magazine and was previously the director of the Center for Applied Data Ethics.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry.

Also mentioned in this episode:

 • Ali wrote a blog post called “
Destroy AI • .”

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Maybe We Should Destroy AI w/ Ali Alkhatib

Paris Marx is joined by Cecilia Rikap to discuss the ways Amazon, Microsoft, and Google gain power from companies becoming dependent on their cloud services and how generative AI exacerbates that problem.

Cecilia Rikap is an Associate Professor in Economics at University College London.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham.

Also mentioned in this episode:

 • Paris and Cecilia were 
co-authors • on the “Reclaiming digital sovereignty” white paper.
 • Cecilia wrote a report called “
Dynamics of Corporate Governance Beyond Ownership in AI • .”

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How Cloud Giants Cement Their Power w/ Cecilia Rikap

Paris Marx is joined by Will Tavlin to discuss how the Netflix model transformed film into the Typical Netflix Movie and how the company uses claims about data to deceive the public.

Will Tavlin is a New York-based writer who has written for n+1, Bookforum, and the Columbia Journalism Review.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham.

Also mentioned in this episode:

 • Will wrote about 
Netflix and the Typical Netflix Movie • for n+1.

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What Netflix Has Done to Movies w/ Will Tavlin

Our Data Vampires series may be over, but Paris interviewed a bunch of experts on data centers and AI whose insights shouldn’t go to waste. We’re releasing those interviews as bonus episodes for Patreon supporters. Here’s a preview of this week’s premium episode with Dwayne Monroe, a senior cloud architect and longtime consultant these kinds of projects. For the full interview, support the show on Patreon.

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Patreon Preview: How Big Tech Made the Cloud w/ Dwayne Monroe

Paris Marx is joined by Jathan Sadowski to discuss the relationship between technology and capitalism, and what lessons can be taken from the Luddites to properly assess and understand these systems.

Jathan Sadowski is is the author of The Mechanic and the Luddite: A Ruthless Criticism of Technology and Capitalism. He’s also the co-host of This Machine Kills and a Senior Lecturer in the Faculty of Information Technology at Monash University.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham.

Also mentioned in this episode:

 • Jathan wrote about 
AI and the Tinkerbell Effect • in 
Futurism • .

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How to See Tech Like a Luddite w/ Jathan Sadowski

Our Data Vampires series may be over, but Paris interviewed a bunch of experts on data centers and AI whose insights shouldn’t go to waste. We’re releasing those interviews as bonus episodes for Patreon supporters. Here’s a preview of this week’s premium episode with Dan McQuillan, author of Resisting AI and a lecturer at Goldsmiths University of London. For the full interview, support the show on Patreon.

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Patreon Preview: The Fascistic Solutionism of AI w/ Dan McQuillan

Paris Marx is joined by Eoin Higgins to discuss how tech billionaires set out to change the media ecosystem and made it profitable for influential voices to shift to the political right.

Eoin Higgins is a journalist and the author of Owned: How Tech Billionaires on the Right Bought the Loudest Voices on the Left.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.

The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham.

Also mentioned in this episode:

 • Read an excerpt of Eoin’s book on 
LitHub • .
 • Last year, Peter Thiel 
bragged • to Ann Coulter about 
killing Gawker • .
 • Rick Perlstein wrote about the time 
he met Marc Andreessen • .

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The Tech Oligarchy’s Campaign Against the Media w/ Eoin Higgins

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