David talks to Ian McEwan about Italo Calvino’s The Watcher (1963), one of the greatest of all works of political fiction. Challenging, disturbing, redemptive: this is a book about who gets to count and who doesn’t, and what identity politics really means. David and Ian also discuss how political fiction works - and why the climate change novel is so hard to write. Plus they argue about whether children should be allowed to vote. Next week: Helen Thompson on Dallas and the end of oil. Ian McEwan’s latest novel is Lessons, available now. To read more about Calvino, here is a recent appreciation of his later writings in the New Yorker. On the children’s focus groups, here is the report. For more links and info about future episodes, follow Past Present Future on Twitter @PPFIdeas Past Present Future is brought to you in partnership with the London Review of Books. Sign up to LRB Close Readings: Directly in Apple: https://apple.co/3pJoFPq In other podcast apps: lrb.supportingcast.fm Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices