On this episode, Kirk sits down for a conversation with composer, singer, and music technologist Imogen Heap.

The two talk about the creative process, live performance in the pandemic age, the shifting relationship between artist and audience, the process of developing new music technology, several of Heap's ambitious musical projects, and of course, her song "Hide and Seek," which was the subject of an episode of Strong Songs earlier this year.

REFERENCED ON THIS EPISODE:

• Imogen Heap's App, home of the "Heapsters": https://imogenheap.app/ • The Mi.Mu Gloves: https://mimugloves.com/ • “Promo” by Tim Exile live for BBC Radio 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5SVhGg5UV8 • Tim Exile's "Endless" app: https://endlesss.fm/ • “Last Night of an Empire” by Imogen Heap, 2020 • “First Train Home” performed by Imogen Heap in her Kitchen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5nU5O2wygE&t=1269s • “Daylight Robbery” and “Hide and Seek” by Imogen Heap from Speak For Yourself, • 2004 • “The Listening Chair” and “You Know Where to Find Me” by Imogen Heap from Sparks • , 2014 • E.L. Doctorow’s wonderful quote, as paraphrased by Anne Lamott in her writing memoir Bird by Bird • : “Writing is like driving at night in the fog. You can only see as far as your headlights, but you can make the whole trip that way.” • “Oustrue” by Richard Devine from Sort/Lave • , 2018 • “YaYaYa” by Ry X from Unfurl • , 2019 • “Mountains” by Biffy Clyro from Only Revolutions • , 2009 • The Interdependence podcast, with Holly Herndon and Matt Dryhurst: https://interdependence.fm/ STRONG MERCH

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