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The DSR Network

This podcast will take you on a smart, direct, sometimes scary, sometimes profane, sometimes hilarious tour of the inner workings of American power and of the impact of our leaders and their policies on our standing in the world. Hosted by noted author and commentator David Rothkopf and featuring regulars Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law School, Kori Schake of AEI, and Ed Luce of the Financial Times, the program will be the lively, smart dinner table conversation on the big issues of the day that you wish you were having...without the calories. Sometimes special guests will join the conversation and always the emphasis will be on providing the unvarnished perspectives others shy away from. Deep State Radio is the insider perspective on American national security and foreign policy that you can't find anywhere else.

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Deep State Radio

White House chief of staff Susie Wiles gave numerous interviews to Vanity Fair that were way too candid about, well, everything. That prompted press secretary Karoline Leavitt to offer some rancid spin: She went full cult in praise of Trump. She dissembled lamely about “fake news.” And she raged at the publication for not including enough of Trump advisers’ praise for him—as if it’s obliged to do that! We think Wiles’ most interesting revelation was her open admission that Trump’s prosecutions are indeed about “retribution.” Zeteo reporter Asawin Suebsaeng has a piece out today reporting on a new turn in this saga: That confession will complicate Trump’s prosecution of enemies, because it gives them ammo to show that his targeting of them is vindictive. We talked to Suebsaeng about the damage this will do to Trump’s corrupt prosecutions, why Leavitt and others praise Trump so obsequiously at difficult moments, and what all this says about our slide into authoritarianism.

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The Daily Blast: Trump Press Sec Goes Off Rails as Susie Wiles Fiasco Takes Worse Turn

On the DSR Daily for Tuesday, we cover the President’s vile comments on Rob Reiner, attacks on more supposed drug boats, Trump’s $10 billion lawsuit against the BBC, and more. 
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DSR Daily December 16: More Vile Comments from Trump

On the DSR Daily for Monday, we break down the tragic shooting at a Hanukkah event in Sydney, the election of far-right Kast in Chile, the conviction of a pro-democracy advocate in Hong Kong, and more. 
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DSR Daily December 15: Tragic Shooting in Sydney

President Donald Trump keeps ranting furiously that “affordability” is a Democratic scam. But suddenly he’s now promoting video of himself talking about how devoted he is—really, truly—to doing something about costs (while angrily blaming Democrats for it). And that admits costs are a problem on his watch. Republicans want him to stabilize his message on affordability, but by lurching wildly back-and-forth, he’s sabotaging it. And even the very MAGA chair of the Republican National Committee is admitting the GOP faces a “looming disaster” in the midterms. Other MAGA figures are also sounding the alarm. There’s a reason Trump can’t escape this conundrum: His policies actually are making things a lot worse. We talked to economist Rob Shapiro, who has a good piece at Washington Monthly spelling this out. We discuss the true nature of the Tump-GOP conundrum, the deeper reasons Trump is so vulnerable on the economy, and why it’s all likely to get worse right through 2026.

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The Daily Blast: Raging Trump Wrecks GOP’s 2026 Message as MAGA Panic Grows: “Disaster”

The Republican Senate just voted against extending the Affordable Care Act. Twenty million people could lose their healthcare coverage soon, and the Republicans have yet to present a viable healthcare plan. Norm Ornstein and David Rothkopf discuss this MAGApocalypse, the GOP implosion, and the dangerous consequences of a lame-duck Trump.

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Words Matter: MAGApocalypse Now

Donald Trump’s National Security Strategy is another nail in the coffin for U.S. foreign policy. Sadly, and unsurprisingly, it furthers MAGA’s anti-European ideology and only serves to benefit Russia, China, and other illiberal governments around the world. Ivo Daalder, President of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs and former U.S. Ambassador to NATO, joins David Rothkopf and Rosa Brooks to discuss the concerning anti-European sentiment in Washington and the implications of this “strategy.”

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Trump's Strategy that Only the Kremlin (and Beijing) Could Love

On the DSR Daily for Wednesday, we discuss huge Democratic victories in Miami and Georgia, dystopian social media disclosure rules for foreign tourists, Brad Lander launching a congressional bid, and more. 
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DSR Daily December 10: More Shocking Democrat Victories!

On the DSR Weekly Wrap-Up for December 5, we cover the administration’s newly released National Security Strategy, the Supreme Court allowing the use of Texas’s gerrymandered map, the fallout from Signalgate, and more. 
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DSR Weekly Wrap-Up: Trump’s Dangerous Vision for the World

President Trump offered a disgusting response to the horrific death of Rob Reiner and his wife, narcissistically insisting they’d died of “Trump Derangement Syndrome” while delusionally claiming world-historical successes for himself. What surprised us was MAGA’s retort to this. Marjorie Taylor Greene offered a remarkably heartfelt reply to Trump, and the contrast between her measured tone and his unhinged, megalomaniacal cruelty had the effect of quietly humiliating him. Other MAGA figures piled on as well. We think this captures a deeper set of divisions inside MAGA, and indeed, it comes as other MAGA figures are now warning that the base is drifting away from Trump. Even Trump’s own pollster is sounding the alarm. We talked to New Republic senior editor Alex Shephard, who’s been writing well about Greene and MAGA. We discuss why Trump’s hold is weakening over his base and MAGA influencers alike, what Greene recognizes about Trump’s weakness that other Republicans don’t, and how this will likely get worse for Trump, to the benefit of Democrats. 

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The Daily Blast: Marjorie Taylor Greene Humiliates Trump over Reiner as MAGA Cracks Up

On the DSR Weekly Wrap-Up for December 12, we cover Indiana Republicans rejecting Trump’s gerrymandered map, the House overturning Trump’s executive order on bargaining rights, the Justice Department failing again to indict Letitia James, and more. 
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DSR Weekly Wrap-Up: A No Good Very Bad Day for Trump

On Tuesday, press secretary Karoline Leavitt gave her first media briefing in the White House. Leavitt unleashed a sleazy, gratuitous attack on Joe Biden’s age, dodged responsibility for the rise in egg prices on Trump’s watch, and even defended Trump’s executive order ending birthright citizenship. The attack on Biden is worth dwelling on: It shows that a certain type of ugly, abusive MAGA trolling ethic is now fully installed inside the White House. We talked to Salon writer Amanda Marcotte, a skillful interpreter of MAGA politics, about what really lies behind Leavitt’s performance—and what it signals about the ugliness to come. 
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The Daily Blast: Trump Aide Karoline Leavitt’s Ugly New Attack on Biden Is a Bad Omen

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