Al Horford was a silent leader during his first stint in Boston, but he has been more vocal this season. What changed? We get the answers to that question, plus Rob Williams and Grant Williams join the pod to give their perspective on Horford’s leadership and influence on them as young players. Horford then joins the conversation to speak about how he views NBA leadership through his own eyes. • 1:12 – Marc and Abby preview their conversation with Rob Williams and Grant Williams • 3:08 – Marc and Abby preview their conversation with Al Horford • 5:10 – Rob Williams and Grant Williams join the conversation to discuss veteran leadership in the NBA • 6:55 – Grant Williams on the advice he has sought from Al Horford, and he remembers the first time he ever met Horford • 8:35 – Rob Williams on how Horford influenced him after a rough start to Williams’ career • 11:15 – Rob Williams reveals his nickname for Horford • 14:50 – Grant Williams reveals what he heard about Horford before Horford’s return to the Celtics • 16:15 – What qualifies a player as an “OG” in the NBA? • 16:45 – Grant Williams discusses the tricks of the trade he’s learned from watching Horford • 19:00 – Grant Williams and Rob Williams compare Horford’s style of leadership to Gordon Hayward’s • 23:30 – Horford on his return to Boston and what makes the Celtics “different” • 26:30 – Horford on how he has changed from his first stint in Boston to his second stint • 31:45 – Horford discusses what he tries to teach his young teammates • 32:27 – Horford comments specifically on Rob Williams ‘and Grant Williams’ growth as players • 36:30 – Horford on when he developed his leadership style • 41:00 – Horford on what initiated him to become a more vocal leader this season • 44:30 – Is Horford thinking about coaching in future? • 47:20 – What it means to Horford that he has played a role in young players finding their way in the league See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.