This week we sit down with Joudie Kalla, also known to the world as @palestineonaplate. A Palestinian-British chef hailing from a family of Nakba survivors who spent time in Syria before settling in London and author of two best selling Palestinian cook books, Palestine on a Plate: Memories from my Mother’s Kitchen and Baladi: A Celebration of Food from Land and Sea. Joudie talks to us about anti-Palestinian media bias she experienced, how divide and conquer manifests in the culinary world, and whether Palestinian cuisine would make a good fusion cuisine. Listen to find out Joudie’s recommendation for the best introductory recipe for a newcomer to Palestinian cuisine and hear Michael instigate bamya-gate part 3. Joudie’s dogs provide the soundtrack to this episode. If you liked this episode, join our Patreon where you will get exclusive access to an additional 45 minutes of footage from this conversation where we dive deep into trauma, memories, and exile and play a round of rapid fire questions to get to know Joudie better.