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The Verge

The Vergecast is the flagship podcast from The Verge about small gadgets, Big Tech, and everything in between. Every Friday, hosts Nilay Patel and David Pierce hang out and make sense of the week’s most important technology news. And every Tuesday, David leads a selection of The Verge’s expert staffers in an exploration of how gadgets and software affect our lives – and which ones you should bring into yours.

The Vergecast

Last week, it appeared the US Department of Justice was off to a strong start in its antitrust case against Live Nation Ticketmaster. Then, this week, the two sides surprised everyone by settling. The Verge's Lauren Feiner joins the show to explain the stakes of the case, the facts of the settlement, and why things aren’t entirely over just yet. Then, The Verge’s Hayden Field catches us up on what’s happening between Anthropic, OpenAI, and the Department of Defense. OpenAI got the contract, but it looks like Anthropic might be the real winner here. If the company’s business can survive, that is. Finally, David answers a question on the Vergecast Hotline (call 866-VERGE11 or email vergecast@theverge.com!) about whether you should get a foldable phone. And why foldable phones even exist.

Further reading:

 Live Nation settles government antitrust suit — that probably doesn’t include a breakup

 How Live Nation allegedly terrorized the concert industry

 Did Live Nation punish a venue by taking Billie Eilish away? 

 Inside Anthropic’s existential negotiations with the Pentagon 

 We don’t have to have unsupervised killer robots 

 How OpenAI caved to the Pentagon on AI surveillance 

 Trump orders federal agencies to drop Anthropic’s AI 

 Iran Strikes: Anthropic Claude AI Helped US Attack. But How Exactly? - Bloomberg

 My favorite folding phone is the one that doesn’t exist yet 

 Google Pixel Fold review: closing the gap

 Motorola Razr Ultra (2025) review: looking sharp

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The twist in the Ticketmaster antitrust fight

In 1997, David Hampton and Caleb Chung took one look at a Tamagotchi and decided they could bring the virtual pet craze into the real world. Their robotic companion, Furby, packed a bunch of advanced technology into a small, adorable, often annoying package. But for all the irritation it caused (Furby famously had no on-off switch) there was a surprising amount of thoughtful philosophy in its design. The Verge’s Vee Song, Sean Hollister and host David Pierce are joined by Coco the Furby to discuss the lore behind the hottest toy of 1998.

⁠Geocities chat with Furby co-inventor David Hampton⁠

If you like the show, ⁠⁠follow the Version History audio podcast feed⁠⁠ to get every new episode.Version History is also on video! Check us out on YouTube.⁠Subscribe to The Verge⁠ for unlimited access to ⁠theverge.com⁠, subscriber-exclusive newsletters, and our ⁠ad-free podcast feed⁠.We love hearing from you! Email your questions and thoughts to ⁠vergecast@theverge.com⁠ or call us at 866-VERGE11.
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Version History: Furby

While most phone makers work hard to ensure their products don’t start fires, Oukitel made a phone that starts fires on purpose. This week on The Vergecast, Dominic Preston joins Editor-in-Chief Nilay Patel to wrap up all the weird and wonderful phones he and the team saw at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona. Then, Sean Hollister takes us through Google and Epic’s enemies-to-lovers saga: A secret $800 million deal, a non-disparagement agreement, and something about the metaverse for some reason. Plus: Nilay just had the best home movie experience of his life thanks to the Kaleidescape 8TB solid-state server, Dom’s charging his smart phone on a mini racecar, and Sean delivers some disappointing news about the Lego smart brick we were all rooting for. And Brendan Carr is still being a dummy.

Further reading:

 ⁠Nothing is finally covering up with the slim, metal Phone 4A Pro⁠

 ⁠Nothing couldn’t wait to show off the Phone 4A⁠

 
⁠Nothing’s Headphone A are something worth considering⁠⁠

 Honor’s Robot Phone is a bad robot, an interesting camera, and maybe your friend⁠

 ⁠Honor claims its Robot Phone will launch later this year⁠

 
⁠Honor’s Magic V6 is the first foldable with an IP69 rating⁠

 ⁠Xiaomi’s Leica Leitzphone mostly earns the name⁠

 ⁠Xiaomi, unlike Google and Samsung, thinks camera hardware comes first⁠

 ⁠Xiaomi 17 is a small(ish) phone with a big(ish) battery⁠

 ⁠Here’s the upgrade to my favorite phone camera of last year⁠

 ⁠Tecno is doing a modular phone (again)⁠

 
⁠Lenovo made a Framework-like laptop with modular ports — and a second screen⁠ ⁠

 Google isn’t waiting for a settlement — the 30 percent Android app store fee is dead⁠

 ⁠Here’s how Google describes its fee-reducing Apps Experience and Games Level Up programs⁠

 ⁠Epic and Google have signed a special deal for a new class of ‘metaverse’ apps⁠

 ⁠Tim Sweeney signed away his right to criticize Google until 2032⁠

 ⁠Fortnite is returning to Google Play globally⁠

 ⁠FCC Chair Brendan Carr is pushing for US-based call centers⁠

 I’m not ashamed to admit the Kobo Remote is the best gadget I’ve bought this year⁠

 Did Live Nation punish a venue by taking Billie Eilish away?⁠

 I charge my phone on a racing car. Do you? ⁠

 ⁠Investigating the 61-pound machine that eats plastic and spits out bricks

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This phone starts fires on purpose

Apple released a bunch of new iPhones, iPads, Macs, and Studio Displays this week. The Verge’s Nilay Patel and David Pierce tried them all this morning, and are back to share their thoughts live.

Further reading:

 All the news about Apple’s MacBook Neo, iPhone 17E, and more

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MacBook Neo, iPhone 17e, and iPad Air: The Vergecast Livestream

Most mainstream phone options are kind of the same, year in and year out — but that doesn’t mean there’s no innovation to be found. The Verge’s Allison Johnson is at Mobile World Congress, and joins the show to report on all the modular phones, robot phones, small phones, big phones, and (alas) 6G phones set to hit the market this year. After that, The Verge’s Jess Weatherbed explains the phenomenon of the gadget strap, and makes the case that they’re an increasingly useful accessory as our phones become even more important to our daily lives. (Yes, even if you have pockets.) Finally, The Verge’s Jay Peters helps David answer a question from the Vergecast Hotline (call 866-VERGE11 or email vergecast@theverge.com!) about whether the metaverse, however you want to define it, is ever going to be realized.

Further reading:

 Oh great, here comes 6G 

 Honor claims its Robot Phone will launch later this year 

 Lenovo made a Franken-laptop with modular ports and a second screen 

 Vivo’s next phone will launch with a professional camera rig 

 Tecno’s latest concept phone is lit by neon 

 Honor’s Magic V6 is the first foldable with an IP69 rating 

 The Motorola Razr Fold is shaping up to be pure flagship

 Xiaomi’s super-slim power bank costs extra in orange. 

 Honor’s thinnest tablet doesn’t come cheap. 

 Peak Design has wearable gadget straps for people who hate bags 

 Apple’s misunderstood crossbody iPhone strap might be the best I’ve seen 

 Meta confirms Reality Labs layoffs and shifts to invest more in wearables

 Meta’s VR metaverse is ditching VR

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The 6G, modular, robot phones of the future

Samsung just launched its newest phones, the Galaxy S26 lineup, and wow is it full of Vergecast stories. There’s the very cool new Privacy Display, which seems genuinely useful; there’s the AI-powered camera, which seems like a disaster waiting to happen; and there’s the new agentic AI in Android, which Google and Samsung might be positioned to actually pull off. After talking through all the new stuff, Nilay and David discuss the recent executive shakeup at Xbox, and try to figure out why Microsoft just can’t win in games. Finally, in the lightning round, it’s time for Brendan Carr is a dummy, some truly remarkable charts, and much more.

Further reading:

 
⁠Samsung Unpacked 2026: live updates from the Galaxy S26 ⁠⁠announcement event ⁠

 ⁠Samsung Galaxy S26 and Galaxy S26 Plus hands-on: More of the same ⁠

 ⁠Samsung AI photos⁠

 
⁠Google Gemini can book an Uber or order food for you with new agentic AI features ⁠⁠Google and Samsung just launched the AI features Apple couldn’t with Siri⁠

 ⁠I’m super impressed with the Galaxy S26 Ultra’s new Privacy Display ⁠

 ⁠Samsung announces Galaxy Buds 4 and Buds 4 Pro at Unpacked 2026⁠

 ⁠Xbox shakeup: Phil Spencer and Sarah Bond are leaving Microsoft ⁠

 ⁠Xbox chief Phil Spencer is leaving Microsoft ⁠

 ⁠Read Xbox chief Phil Spencer’s memo about leaving Microsoft ⁠

 ⁠Sarah Bond is leaving Xbox ⁠

 ⁠Read Xbox president Sarah Bond’s memo about leaving Microsoft. ⁠

 ⁠Inside Microsoft’s big Xbox leadership shake-up ⁠

 ⁠Read Microsoft gaming CEO Asha Sharma’s first memo on the future of Xbox ⁠

 ⁠New Microsoft gaming CEO Asha Sharma says “hear you” to complaints about a lack of Xbox exclusives.⁠

 ⁠New Xbox CEO: ‘The plan’s the plan until it’s not the plan.’ ⁠

 ⁠Microsoft says today’s Xbox shake-up doesn’t mean game studio layoffs ⁠

 ⁠Billions of dollars later and still nobody knows what an Xbox is ⁠

 ⁠Chairman Carr Announces Pledge America Campaign⁠

 ⁠Does Anthropic think Claude is alive? Define ‘alive’⁠

 ⁠Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas AI Scenarios chart⁠

 ⁠Youtube Chair Drama⁠

 ⁠OpenAI’s Stargate struggles. ⁠

 ⁠OpenAI’s first ChatGPT gadget could be a smart speaker with a camera ⁠

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The Galaxy S26 is a photography nightmare

Few AI products have found the kind of product-market fit we’ve seen from Claude Code. On the eve of the product’s first anniversary, Anthropic’s Boris Cherny explains why Claude Code is so powerful, all the work left to do, and why he no longer writes any code himself. After that, The Verge’s Hayden Field joins the show to talk about how we should think about giving our data (and our computers) to AI, even when it seems useful. Finally, The Verge’s Allison Johnson helps David answer a question from the Vergecast Hotline (866-VERGE11) about whether you should go buy a phone, like, right now.

Further reading:

 Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

 Claude has been having a moment — can it keep it up?

 The AI security nightmare is here and it looks suspiciously like lobster 

 OpenClaw’s AI ‘skill’ extensions are a security nightmare 

 Humans are infiltrating the social network for AI bots 

 Anthropic connects Claude to Microsoft Teams, Outlook, and OneDrive 

 MCP extension unites Claude with apps like Slack, Canva, and Figma 

 The RAM shortage is coming for everything you care about 

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How Claude Code Claude Codes

Once again, FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr and his bad ideas about free speech have rankled a late night host. And once again, Nilay and David talk through what the equal-time rule actually means, why organizations keep caving, and why it's apparently up to people like Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel to fight back. After that, the hosts discuss the facial recognition feature Meta hopes to launch for its smart glasses, plus the gadgets we're likely to see Apple launch in the couple of weeks. In the lightning round, we get some bleak news on Tesla's self-driving skills, a robovac security disaster, and the future of Warner Bros.

Further reading:

 Why CBS Didn't Broadcast Stephen Colbert's Interview With James Talarico

 Stephen Colbert says CBS banned him from airing this James Talarico interview 

 Why Everyone's Talking About Stephen Colbert, CBS, The FCC And James Talarico

 Meta reportedly wants to add face recognition to smart glasses while privacy advocates are distracted

 From the NYT: Meta Plans to Add Facial Recognition Technology to Its Smart Glasses

 Apple’s doing something on March 4th 

 Apple is reportedly planning to launch AI-powered glasses, a pendant, and AirPods 

 Apple starts testing end-to-end encrypted RCS messages on iPhone 

 Apple’s Podcasts app will let you ‘seamlessly’ switch between audio and video shows 

 Looks like we can expect more AI from the Galaxy S26 camera. | The Verge

 Google announces dates for I/O 2026 

 Western Digital says it’s “pretty much soldout” for 2026. 

 Valve’s Steam Deck OLED will be ‘intermittently’ out of stock because of the RAM crisis 

 Switch 2 pricing and next PlayStation release could be impacted by memory shortage 

 Tesla’s robotaxis have crashed 14 times in 9 months. 

 Tesla won’t use the term ‘Autopilot’ in California anymore

 Why are Epstein’s emails full of equals signs?

 4chan’s creator says ‘Epstein had nothing to do’ with creating infamous far-right board /pol/

 DJI’s first robovac is an autonomous cleaning drone you can’t trust

 The DJI Romo robovac had security so poor, this man remotely accessed thousands of them

 DJI says yes, it will fix its other Romo robovac security hole within weeks

 Samsung ad confirms rumors of a useful S26 ‘privacy display’ 

 Warner Bros. Discovery gives Paramount one week to present its ‘best and final’ offer 

 WordPress’ new AI assistant will let users edit their sites with prompts 

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The speech police came for Colbert

The Verge's Allison Johnson has recently been doing the unthinkable: she's been leaving her laptop at home. Allison joins the show to explain how she turned her Samsung foldable into a useful computer, and why it feels so good to do so. Then, Sportico's Jacob Feldman joins the show to talk about the Winter Olympics, the Super Bowl, and the overall state of sports streaming in 2026. (Unfortunately, it's all still very complicated.) Finally, David answers a question on the Vergecast Hotline (call 866-VERGE11 or email vergecast@theverge.com!) about whether flip phones might have a future in an AI world.

Further reading:

 
YouTube TV reveals pricing for its sports, news, and entertainment packages

 
From Sportico: 2026 Sports Tech: Amazon vs. Youtube vs. ESPN vs. Netflix vs. Tiktok

 Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 7 review: stunning, bendy, and spendy

 Motorola Razr Ultra (2025) review: looking sharp

 Logitech’s Keys-To-Go 2

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Your next laptop could be a foldable phone

Did you see Ring's Super Bowl ad and see happy puppies reunited with their owners? Or did you see the seeds of a complete, always-on surveillance nightmare coming for us all? David and Nilay discuss which is the right answer, why so many people don't want to trust tech companies, and why Ring might not care much about the difference. After that, the hosts discuss the ads coming to ChatGPT, the surprising number of AI executives quitting their jobs and issuing dire warnings on the way out, and the fake ad for OpenAI gadgets. In the lightning round, it's time for an extra long Brendan Carr is a Dummy, the latest Ferrari EV, the future of Siri, and more.

Further reading:

 Jeffrey Epstein’s digital cleanup crew 

 Jeffrey Epstein might not have created /pol/, but he helped carry out its mission

 Amazon Ring’s lost dog ad sparks backlash amid fears of mass surveillance 

 Wyze is sticking it to Ring

 Sen. Markey calls on Amazon to “discontinue” Ring monitoring features

 Ring’s new Search Party feature is on by default; should you opt out?

 Ring launches upgraded cameras with Retinal Vision 4K recording

 What the Guthrie case reveals about your ‘deleted’ doorbell footage 

 FBI releases recovered footage from Nancy Guthrie’s Nest cam 

 OpenAI’s first hardware slips to 2027

 OpenAI’s supposedly ‘leaked’ Super Bowl ad with ear buds and a shiny orb was a hoax 

 Two more xAI co-founders are among those leaving after the SpaceX merger 

 OpenAI reportedly disbanded its Mission Alignment team

 OpenAI fired exec who opposed ‘adult mode’ 

 Read an Anthropic AI safety lead's exit letter: 'The world is in peril'

 Opinion | I Left My Job at OpenAI. Putting Ads on ChatGPT Was the Last Straw.

 What Is Claude? Anthropic Doesn’t Know, Either

 ChatGPT’s cheapest options now show you ads 

 Here are the brands bringing ads to ChatGPT 

 Claude gets more free features to capitalize on ChatGPT ads

 Ex-OpenAI researcher has “deep reservations” about its approach to ads

 Brendan Carr is a Dummy theme submitted by Michiel Vanhoudt on BlueSky

 FTC says it’s ‘not the speech police’ in letter warning Apple News about its alleged promotion of left-leaning outlets

 Ferrari’s first EV will have an interior designed by Jony Ive 

 Here’s what the Ferrari Luce’s buttons, switches, and knobs sound like.

 The early reviews of the Rivian R2 are starting to roll in

 Live Nation’s monopoly trial is reportedly fracturing Trump’s Justice Department 

 YouTube is coming to the Apple Vision Pro

 Apple keeps hitting bumps with its overhauled Siri 

 The iPhone 17e could launch soon with MagSafe and an A19 chip 

 Apple might let you use ChatGPT from CarPlay 

 Paramount ups its offer for Warner Bros. Discovery, again

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Ring's adorable surveillance hellscape

AI companies want all the data, everywhere, to make their models bigger and better. That means a lot of questions about piracy and copyright, and at least in one case it means Anthropic systematically destroying countless books just to feed them to the model. The Washington Post's Will Oremus joins the show to explain how that worked, why Anthropic, Meta, OpenAI and others are doing it, and what the law has to say. Then, Puck's Julia Alexander helps David figure out whether Netflix is serious about showing movies in theaters, and what theaters need to do to survive in the entertainment business going forward.

Further reading:

 From The Washington Post: Anthropic ‘destructively’ scanned millions of books to build Claude

 Anthropic wins a major fair use victory for AI — but it’s still in trouble for stealing books

 Meta’s AI copyright win comes with a warning about fair use

 Did AI companies win a fight with authors? Technically

 From Puck: Why Netflix Needs Warner Bros. 

 Welcome to the big leagues, Netflix

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Millions of books died so Claude could live

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