They said it couldn't last, so we had to prove them wrong... by making an episode of Strong Songs all about Janet Jackson, Jimmy Jam, and Terry Lewis.
It's time to go back to the late 80s, when New Jack Swing was all the rage and a budding superstar named Janet sat down with a pair of Minneapolis producers named Jimmy and Terry to produce some of the most groundbreaking pop music of the decade. This episode takes a look at "Love Will Never Do (Without You)," one of the most complex of their collaborations, and a tune with as many stylistic left-turns as it has orchestra hits.
Written by: James Harris III and Terry Lewis Produced by: Janet Jackson, Jam & Lewis
Album: Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814, 1989
Listen/Buy: Apple Music | Amazon | Spotify
FEATURED/DISCUSSED:
• “Casey Kasem’s American Top 40 • intro from the 1980s, via YouTube • “Kiss” by Prince from Parade • , 1986 • “Walking on Broken Glass” by Annie Lennox from Diva • , 1992 • “Like a Prayer” by Madonna from Like a Prayer • , 1989 • “Control,” “Nasty,” and “When I Think of You” by Janet Jackson/Jam & Lewis from Control • , 1986 • "Rhythm Nation" and "Miss You Much" from Rhythm Nation • 1814, 1989 • Emu SP-1200 Beatmaking demonstration by Chief Rugged on YouTube • Discussion of New Jack Swing, which you can learn more about here • “Poison” by Bel Biv DeVoe from Poison • , 1990 • “Alice, I Want You Just For Me” by Full Force, produced by Teddy Riley on Full Force • , 1985 • Estelle Caswell’s Vox Earworm video about the Orchestra Hit • “The Chain” by Fleetwood Mac from Rumors • , 1977
OUTRO SOLOIST: Dan Nervo
This episode's outro soloist is the fantastic Dan Nervo. Dan plays guitar in the San Francisco Bay Area in bands like Neon Velvet, and also teaches private guitar lessons. Hit him up if you want to get good at guitar: https://www.facebook.com/DanNervoGuitarLessons/
STRONG MERCH
Check out the Strong Songs merch store for some cool t-shirts, mugs, totes, and more: store.strongsongspodcast.com
JOIN THE STRONG SONGS DISCORD
The Strong Songs Discord server is now open to everyone! Come join the conversation and get (or give) some music recs: https://discord.gg/GCvKqAM8Sm
KEEP IT SOCIAL
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And find Kirk on Twitter @Kirkhamilton and on Instagram at @Kirk_Hamilton
NEWSLETTER/MAILING LIST
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STRONG PLAYLISTS
Kirk has condensed his Strong Songs picks into a single new list, which you can find on Spotify and Apple Music, and YouTube Music.
SUPPORT STRONG SONGS!
Thank you so much to all of Strong Songs' Patreon supporters - you are all the best. For more on how to support the creation of this show, go here: https://Patreon.com/StrongSongs
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OCTOBER 2021 WHOLE-NOTE PATRONS
Ashley Hoag Mark and Michelle Kelsair Rob Bosworth Kyle Cooke Donald Mackie Melissa Osborne Christopher Miller Tim Byrne Jamie White Christopher Kupski Christopher McConnell David Mascetti Joshua Jarvis Niko Joe Laska Laurie Acreman Ken Hirsh Jez Jenness Gardner Simon Cammell Guinevere Boostrom Narelle Horn Nathaniel Bauernfeind Bill Rosinger Anne Britt David Zahm Erin Aidan Coughlan Jeanneret Manning Family Four Doug Paton Robert Paul Viki Dun Dave Sharpe Christer Lindqvist Sami Samhuri AccessViolation Ryan Torvik Merlin Mann Glenn Jim Chokey Andre Bremer Mark Schechter Dave Florey Dan Apczynski
OCTOBER 2021 HALF-NOTE PATRONS
Paul Wayper Miles Forman Dennis M Edwards Jeffrey Ferris Bruno Gaeta Kenneth Jung ben kurt wendelken Adam Stofsky Zak Remer Rishi Sahay Stefan Niebrügge Jason Reitman Karen Liu Greg Burgess Ailie Fraser Simon Prieto Breck Jones Paul McGreal Karen Arnold NATALIE MISTILIS Josh Singer Phino DeLeon Schloss Edward J. MD Rhyanon Murray Amy Lynn Thornsen Adam W Kelli Brockington Stephen Rawlings Ben Machta Victoria Yu Kevin Rivers Gray Dyer Brad Clark Christopher Michael J. Cunningham Kari Kirk Mark Boggs mino capossela Steve Paquin Mary Schoenmaker Sarah David Joske Emma Sklar Bernard Khoo Marc Robert Heuer Matthew Golden Brian Meldrum David Noah Geraldine Butler Richard Cambier Madeleine Mader Fernando Rodriguez Timothy Dougherty Jason Pratt Stewart Oak Caroline Miller Abbie Berg Sam Norton Nicole Schleicher Doug Belew Dermot Crowley Achint Srivastava Ryan Rairigh Michael Berman Bridget Lyons Olivia Bishop John Gisselquist Elaine Martin Kouroth Sharon Tree Belinda Mcgrath-steer Liz Seger Eoin de Burca Kevin Potter M Shane Borders Pete Simm Susan Plein Dallas Hockley Jana J Jason Gerry Nathan Gouwens Will Dwyer Alethea Lee Lauren Reay Eric Prestemon Cookies250 Spencer Shirley Damian Brady Angela Livingstone JeffyThanadros David Friedman Phillip Dalton Sarah Sulan Diane Hughes Kenneth Tiong Jo Sutherland Michael Casner Michael York Barb Courtney Derek Bender Jen Small Lowell Meyer Etele Illes Stephen Tsoneff Lorenz Schwarz Becca Sample Wen Jack Sjogren Benedict Pennington Geoff Golden Robyn Fraser Alexander Geddes Pascal Rueger Randy Souza JC Brendan Jubb Clare Holberton Diane Turner Tom Coleman Mark Perry Dhu Wik Mel Eric Helm Jake Roberts Briony Leo Bill Fuller Jonathan Daniels Michael Flaherty Jarrod Schindler Zoe Little Caro Field michael bochner Duncan Naomi Watson David Cushman Alexander Jeremy Dawson Chris K Gavin Doig Sam Fenn Tanner Morton AJ Schuster Jennifer Bush David Stroud Amanda Furlotti Andrew Baker Juan Carlos Montemayor Elosua Matt Gaskell Jules Bailey Eero Wahlstedt Bill Thornton Brian Amoebas Brett Douville Jeffrey Olson Matt Betzel Mueller Nate from Kalamazoo Melanie Stivers Richard Toller Alexander Polson Earl Lozada Jon O’Keefe Justin McElroy Arjun Sharma James Johnson Andrew Lee Kevin Morrell Kevin Pennyfeather Nicholas Schechter Emily Williams
They said it couldn't last, so we had to prove them wrong... by making an episode of Strong Songs all about Janet Jackson, Jimmy Jam, and Terry Lewis.
It's time to go back to the late 80s, when New Jack Swing was all the rage and a budding superstar named Janet sat down with a pair of Minneapolis producers named Jimmy and Terry to produce some of the most groundbreaking pop music of the decade. This episode takes a look at "Love Will Never Do (Without You)," one of the most complex of their collaborations, and a tune with as many stylistic left-turns as it has orchestra hits.
Written by: James Harris III and Terry Lewis Produced by: Janet Jackson, Jam & Lewis
Album: Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814, 1989
Listen/Buy: Apple Music | Amazon | Spotify
FEATURED/DISCUSSED:
• “Casey Kasem’s American Top 40 • intro from the 1980s, via YouTube • “Kiss” by Prince from Parade • , 1986 • “Walking on Broken Glass” by Annie Lennox from Diva • , 1992 • “Like a Prayer” by Madonna from Like a Prayer • , 1989 • “Control,” “Nasty,” and “When I Think of You” by Janet Jackson/Jam & Lewis from Control • , 1986 • "Rhythm Nation" and "Miss You Much" from Rhythm Nation • 1814, 1989 • Emu SP-1200 Beatmaking demonstration by Chief Rugged on YouTube • Discussion of New Jack Swing, which you can learn more about here • “Poison” by Bel Biv DeVoe from Poison • , 1990 • “Alice, I Want You Just For Me” by Full Force, produced by Teddy Riley on Full Force • , 1985 • Estelle Caswell’s Vox Earworm video about the Orchestra Hit • “The Chain” by Fleetwood Mac from Rumors • , 1977
OUTRO SOLOIST: Dan Nervo
This episode's outro soloist is the fantastic Dan Nervo. Dan plays guitar in the San Francisco Bay Area in bands like Neon Velvet, and also teaches private guitar lessons. Hit him up if you want to get good at guitar: https://www.facebook.com/DanNervoGuitarLessons/
STRONG MERCH
Check out the Strong Songs merch store for some cool t-shirts, mugs, totes, and more: store.strongsongspodcast.com
JOIN THE STRONG SONGS DISCORD
The Strong Songs Discord server is now open to everyone! Come join the conversation and get (or give) some music recs: https://discord.gg/GCvKqAM8Sm
KEEP IT SOCIAL
Follow Strong Songs on Twitter: @StrongSongs
And find Kirk on Twitter @Kirkhamilton and on Instagram at @Kirk_Hamilton
NEWSLETTER/MAILING LIST
Sign up for Kirk's mailing list to start getting monthly-ish newsletters with music recommendations, links, news, and extra thoughts on new Strong Songs episodes: https://kirkhamilton.substack.com/subscribe
STRONG PLAYLISTS
Kirk has condensed his Strong Songs picks into a single new list, which you can find on Spotify and Apple Music, and YouTube Music.
SUPPORT STRONG SONGS!
Thank you so much to all of Strong Songs' Patreon supporters - you are all the best. For more on how to support the creation of this show, go here: https://Patreon.com/StrongSongs
You can also make a one-time Paypal donation here: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/kirkhamiltonmusic
OCTOBER 2021 WHOLE-NOTE PATRONS
Ashley Hoag Mark and Michelle Kelsair Rob Bosworth Kyle Cooke Donald Mackie Melissa Osborne Christopher Miller Tim Byrne Jamie White Christopher Kupski Christopher McConnell David Mascetti Joshua Jarvis Niko Joe Laska Laurie Acreman Ken Hirsh Jez Jenness Gardner Simon Cammell Guinevere Boostrom Narelle Horn Nathaniel Bauernfeind Bill Rosinger Anne Britt David Zahm Erin Aidan Coughlan Jeanneret Manning Family Four Doug Paton Robert Paul Viki Dun Dave Sharpe Christer Lindqvist Sami Samhuri AccessViolation Ryan Torvik Merlin Mann Glenn Jim Chokey Andre Bremer Mark Schechter Dave Florey Dan Apczynski
OCTOBER 2021 HALF-NOTE PATRONS
Paul Wayper Miles Forman Dennis M Edwards Jeffrey Ferris Bruno Gaeta Kenneth Jung ben kurt wendelken Adam Stofsky Zak Remer Rishi Sahay Stefan Niebrügge Jason Reitman Karen Liu Greg Burgess Ailie Fraser Simon Prieto Breck Jones Paul McGreal Karen Arnold NATALIE MISTILIS Josh Singer Phino DeLeon Schloss Edward J. MD Rhyanon Murray Amy Lynn Thornsen Adam W Kelli Brockington Stephen Rawlings Ben Machta Victoria Yu Kevin Rivers Gray Dyer Brad Clark Christopher Michael J. Cunningham Kari Kirk Mark Boggs mino capossela Steve Paquin Mary Schoenmaker Sarah David Joske Emma Sklar Bernard Khoo Marc Robert Heuer Matthew Golden Brian Meldrum David Noah Geraldine Butler Richard Cambier Madeleine Mader Fernando Rodriguez Timothy Dougherty Jason Pratt Stewart Oak Caroline Miller Abbie Berg Sam Norton Nicole Schleicher Doug Belew Dermot Crowley Achint Srivastava Ryan Rairigh Michael Berman Bridget Lyons Olivia Bishop John Gisselquist Elaine Martin Kouroth Sharon Tree Belinda Mcgrath-steer Liz Seger Eoin de Burca Kevin Potter M Shane Borders Pete Simm Susan Plein Dallas Hockley Jana J Jason Gerry Nathan Gouwens Will Dwyer Alethea Lee Lauren Reay Eric Prestemon Cookies250 Spencer Shirley Damian Brady Angela Livingstone JeffyThanadros David Friedman Phillip Dalton Sarah Sulan Diane Hughes Kenneth Tiong Jo Sutherland Michael Casner Michael York Barb Courtney Derek Bender Jen Small Lowell Meyer Etele Illes Stephen Tsoneff Lorenz Schwarz Becca Sample Wen Jack Sjogren Benedict Pennington Geoff Golden Robyn Fraser Alexander Geddes Pascal Rueger Randy Souza JC Brendan Jubb Clare Holberton Diane Turner Tom Coleman Mark Perry Dhu Wik Mel Eric Helm Jake Roberts Briony Leo Bill Fuller Jonathan Daniels Michael Flaherty Jarrod Schindler Zoe Little Caro Field michael bochner Duncan Naomi Watson David Cushman Alexander Jeremy Dawson Chris K Gavin Doig Sam Fenn Tanner Morton AJ Schuster Jennifer Bush David Stroud Amanda Furlotti Andrew Baker Juan Carlos Montemayor Elosua Matt Gaskell Jules Bailey Eero Wahlstedt Bill Thornton Brian Amoebas Brett Douville Jeffrey Olson Matt Betzel Mueller Nate from Kalamazoo Melanie Stivers Richard Toller Alexander Polson Earl Lozada Jon O’Keefe Justin McElroy Arjun Sharma James Johnson Andrew Lee Kevin Morrell Kevin Pennyfeather Nicholas Schechter Emily Williams
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