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Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

The DarkHorse Podcast is hosted by Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying. Bret and Heather both have PhDs in biology, and they seek truth and explore a wide variety of topics with their evolutionary toolkit as society loses its footing. Tune in to infamous spreaders of "Covid Disinformation" Bret and Heather for a podcast—maybe you'll like what you see!

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On this, our 306th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss men and women, relationships and strategies. What is actually true of young women right now? Is the manosphere onto some uncomfortable and deep truths, or do they suffer from sampling and confirmation bias? What role is porn playing? Social media? Is the nonsense that emerged from #MeToo, with regard to blaming all men, seeing an analog now in the blaming of women? However: men and women are different. Women are more likely to think they have a “right to be right,” to embrace ideologies that privilege victims and grievances, and to be neurotic. Just as encouraging men to embrace their emotional side can enhance many men’s lives, encouraging women to embrace the physical world is likely to enhance their lives. Finally: a book recommendation (Playground).

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Mentioned in this episode:

BSW on male-female dynamics, and response from @MichaelPThelen: https://x.com/thedarkhorsepod/status/2002077458758279397
 
Thelwall 2017 (1of2). Book genre and author gender in Goodreads: Romance>paranormal-romance to autobiography>memoir. Journal of the Association for Information Science and Technology 68(5):1212–1223. DOI:10.1002/asi.23768.
 
Playground, by Richard Powers: https://www.powells.com/book/playground-9781324123736

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The Next Sexual Revolution: The 306th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

On this, our 305th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss evolution, including major transitions from sea to land (early amphibians), and back again (e.g. whales), and the evidence. Where should we expect gaps in the fossil record, and why? How are adaptations to space and time analogous to one another? Then: lab grown pig fat is combined with plant protein and turned into meatballs that pretend to be pork. What could go wrong? Prediction: they’ll be carcinogenic. Finally: GLP-1s—e.g. Ozempic—have so many side effects. Now on people’s radar: they decrease drive and pleasure in all things, including libido.

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Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com

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Mentioned in this episode:

Jim Tour, physicist, talking to Tucker Carlson about creationism: https://x.com/uncommonsince76/status/2000981781651009727

Bret’s dissertation: https://backend.production.deepblue-documents.lib.umich.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/0617b499-b8e8-4071-9a21-95f4c39f8372/content

Bacon that isn’t bacon: https://grist.org/climate-energy/this-pigs-bacon-was-delicious-but-shes-alive-and-well/

Pharma Darlings: https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/pharma-darlings

GLP-1s flatten sex drive: https://www.thecut.com/article/glp-1-weight-loss-drugs-ozempic-sex-drive-side-effects.html

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Was Darwin wrong? The 305th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

Bret Weinstein and British free-speech activist, Carl Benjamin discuss Nick Fuentes and generational divides. Topics include: the crisis facing young men, cultural continuity, and responsibilities needed to build a better future.

Find Carl Benjaminon X at https://x.com/Sargon_of_Akkad and at https://lotuseaters.com. 

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Mentioned on this episode:

The Failure of the Straight White Man by Carl Benjamin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0yybTvpH6g

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Bret Weinstein Talks with Carl Benjamin About Nick Fuentes

On this, our 304th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss the mainstream media’s pivot, in which they now tentatively accept that some children have died from the mRNA Covid shots. We discuss failing trust in science, why it will not be quick to fix the institutions or to people them with honest scientists, and the rebels in the hills who are keeping the flame alive. Also, the application of the phrase “safe and effective” to products that are neither. Then: hominids have been making and controlling fire for far longer than we had thought. And: hadrosaurid dinosaurs were, perhaps, quite clumsy at sex.

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Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com

Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com

Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned)

Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org

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Mentioned in this episode:

The Atlantic: Yes, Some Children May Have Died From COVID Shots: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/2025/12/prasad-memo-covid-vaccine-deaths/685175/

Myocarditis and mRNA shots in Science Translational Medicine: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/scitranslmed.adq0143

Earliest evidence of making fire: SciAm links to original research: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ancient-humans-were-making-fire-350-000-years-earlier-than-scientists/

Recurrent pattern of tail injuries in hadrosaurid dinosaurs: https://www.cell.com/iscience/pdf/S2589-0042(25)02000-0.pdf

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Science: The Rebel Reboot | The 304th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

On this, our 303rd Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss the recommendation to stop vaccinating newborns against Hepatitis B, as just handed down by ACIP (Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices) for the CDC. Why were newborns whose mothers do not have Hep B, being vaccinated against a disease that is contracted through sexual activity and dirty needles? We discuss claims of “safe and effective,” risk stratification, the childhood vaccine schedule, and what “individual-based decision-making” will mean for parents and doctors. Then, new research: tattoo ink induces inflammation in lymph nodes, and changes the immune response to vaccination. Finally: an homage to Tom Stoppard, playwright extraordinaire, author of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead, Arcadia, and so much more. RIP.

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Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com/

Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com

Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned)

Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org

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Mentioned in this episode:

ACIP Hep B recommendation: https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2025/2025-acip-recommends-individual-based-decision-making-for-hepatitis-b-vaccine-for-infants-born-to-women.html

Retsef Levi on Hep B rec: https://x.com/cdcgov/status/1996967080793358366

RFK on vaccines: https://x.com/seckennedy/status/1997104582128754854

Capucetti et al 2025. Tattoo ink induces inflammation in the draining lymph node and alters the immune response to vaccination. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 122(48), p.e2510392122: https://www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.2510392122

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Hep B or not Hep B: The 303rd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

Bret Weinstein speaks with Ben Davidson about modern relationship dynamics, masculinity and feminism, and the nature of good and evil from an evolutionary perspective. 

Find Ben Davidson on Youtube at https://www.youtube.com/@SpaceWeatherNewsS0s and on X at https://x.com/SunWeatherMan.

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Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com

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Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Apocalypse When? Ben Davidson on DarkHorse LIVE https://youtube.com/live/w0Gz7w3l_uE

The Sun, The Earth and The Disaster Cycle https://observerranch.podia.com/the-sun-the-earth-and-the-disaster-cycle

Ben Davidson on X https://www.youtube.com/@SpaceWeatherNewsS0s

Hoe Math on X https://x.com/ItIsHoeMath

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Son Set in the Manosphere: Ben Davidson on DarkHorse

Bret speaks with San Francisco Bay area architect Richard Gage, member of the American Institute of Architects and founder & former CEO of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth on the subject of 9/11 and the collapse of Building 7. 

Find Richard Gage https://richardgage911.org

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Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com

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Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.

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Building 7 Did Not Kill Itself: Richard Gage, AIA on DarkHorse

In this 302nd episode, Bret Weinstein podcasts solo, giving Heather Heying a much-needed break while she recovers from the flu. He shares his thoughts on modern marriage, discusses the troubling Italian farm-family story, and explains what Sarah Hurwitz's revealing comments mean to outsiders. To finish his mission, he answers questions submitted over X and Locals during the stream.

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Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com

Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com

Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned)

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Nathan Trevallion and his family live ‘off-grid https://x.com/Telegraph/status/1989367754856472819

They have taken the children away from the “FAMILY IN THE WOODS” https://x.com/ProVitaFamiglia/status/1991946029080707501

Tweet "Fmr Obama speechwriter Sarah Hurwitz laments to Jewish Federation" https://x.com/infolibnews/status/1990634043218534790

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Solo Mission: The 302nd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

On this, our 301st Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss grief and mourning, and what makes us human. How many distinctly human traits will we prune away before we realize that we have gone too far, that there is too little remaining of humanity to be resurrected? From the Industrial Revolution(s) to that of AI, now we’ve got apps that threaten to keep your loved ones “alive” forever, with none of the valuable complexity that ancient grieving traditions offer. Then: bonobos show evidence of language use that is emergent—in which combinations of sounds mean more than the sum of their parts. And: all of the ostriches at Universal Ostrich Farm in British Columbia have been slaughtered, per a court order, despite there being no public or individual health justification for doing so.

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Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com

Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com

Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned)

Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org

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Mentioned in this episode:

Amelia Earhart: https://x.com/dnigabbard/status/1989450238923309500

2wai, the anti-grief app: https://x.com/bretweinstein/status/1989413085753577593

Berthet et al 2025. Extensive compositionality in the vocal system of bonobos. Science, 388(6742): 104-108: https://www.science.org/doi/epdf/10.1126/science.adv1170

AP on ostriches, 11-7-25: https://apnews.com/article/oshtrich-cull-bird-flu-canada-cbef6e65b570bbc91a790b4817e02777

WaPo on pet vaccinations: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/11/15/edith-pritchett-cartoon-anti-vaccine-pet-owners/

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Raising the Dead: The 301st Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

On this, our 300th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss where we started back in March 2020: Covid, lockdowns, sunlight, masks, repurposed drugs, grainy videos, and more. Then: the recent and on-going massive solar storms, and how to think about them, now and in the future, especially if you find yourself away from home as a civilization ending event may be about to happen. Also: space weather, or anthropogenic climate change, or both? Finally: Rod Dreher on the groypers among D.C. zoomers.

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Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com

Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com

Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned)

Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org

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Mentioned in this episode:

Why Should I Trust You? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/live-from-childrens-health-defense-part-1-of-3/id1788335471?i=1000735997005

Apocalypse When? https://www.youtube.com/live/w0Gz7w3l_uE

Ben Davidson: https://x.com/SunWeatherMan

How the sun could wipe us out (Bret in UnHerd, 2019): https://unherd.com/2021/07/how-the-sun-could-wipe-us-out/

NOAA’s space weather page: https://www.swpc.noaa.gov

Listened to an hour of Fuentes… https://x.com/pegobry_en/status/1987888075087692226?s=20

Dreher in DC: https://roddreher.substack.com/p/what-i-saw-and-heard-in-washington

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Saving Civilization: The 300th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

Bret Speaks with Dr. Mike Mew for the second time on the Darkhorse podcast. Dr. Mew is working to tackle the problem face, jaw, and teeth alignment from an evolutionary perspective. His approach, known as orthotropics, has been widely successful in those with whom he has worked; he now faces the potential loss of his license to practice dentistry in a tribunal going on as this episode is released.

 

Find Dr. Mew on YouTube: Orthotropics (https://www.youtube.com/@Orthotropics)

Find Dr. Mew at: https://orthodontichealth.co.uk/

 

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Locking the Gates of Dentistry: Bret Speaks with Dr. Mike Mew

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