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HLTV

HLTV.org's live talk show hosted by Chad "SPUNJ" Burchill dedicated to hot topics surrounding the professional Counter-Strike scene.

Catch us live here:
https://twitch.tv/hltvorg

HLTV Confirmed - Counter-Strike Podcast

Talking the results of the exciting Shanghai Major, including Spirit's win, FaZe and G2 heartbreaks, Vitality and Mongolz quarter-final disappointments, and the crowd insanity. We also look into what's next: MOUZ to fall apart? m0NESY stays? Falcons to keep SanPayus? ropz Vitality? EliGE G2? And more!

➡️ Follow us for updates: https://twitter.com/HLTVconfirmed
📺 Watch live: https://twitch.tv/HLTVorg
🔊 Listen to audio (Spotify, iTunes, Google): https://anchor.fm/hltv

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0:00 - Intro
6:15 - Fans & China experiences
12:42 - Is there a curfew in China?
15:05 - Prof takes Skinionaire

Major takeaways
22:28 - Broadcast insights
27:23 - Crowd enthusiasm impressions
30:45 - Crowd cheating issue
32:25 - Arena experience
35:44 - Security & more fans experience
40:11 - Spirit’s Major win
41:26 - magixx’s performance & reaction
44:02 - donk’s winning reaction & MVP
56:16 - zont1x: why is he like this?
1:00:12 - Does donk really not care?
1:05:53 - Major merch: giga banger!
1:08:13 - FaZe’s run & expectations
1:18:50 - karrigan 18 rounds of from 3 Major wins
1:23:00 - G2 storylines
1:29:25 - Vitality’s run & apEX’s post
1:38:10 - MOUZ: what holds them back?
1:46:04 - HEROIC: above the expectations
1:49:42 - Liquid: what are the missing?
1:56:40 - The MongolZ: the nerves?
2:02:45 - NAVI: (dis)honorable mention

Shuffle time
2:05:45 - Hottest post-Major players
2:08:32 - EliGE: where can he go?
2:09:50 - Top 3 teams race
2:12:20 - The Major got bigger
2:13:12 - m0NESY’s future & shuffles
2:27:25 - Will MOUZ change big? WATO
2:33:22 - Remaining teams
2:35:50 - Community awards & Top 20

HLTV Confirmed is a Counter-Strike (CS2) talk show featuring Chad "SPUNJ" Burchill, Zvonimir "Professeur" Burazin, and Milan "Striker" Švejda, with guest appearances from community members such as s1mple, device, ropz, Twistzz, karrigan, smooya, dupreeh, cadiaN, Pimp, and 
more. The show is based around interviews, breakdowns, analysis, and discussions about the esports and casual side of Counter-Strike.

https://twitter.com/SPUNJ
https://twitter.com/Professeur_CS
https://twitter.com/StrikerHLTVorg
https://twitter.com/LukasWiinholt

#HLTVConfirmed #podcast #cs2

Spirit donked the Major, m0NESY stays in G2... or not? | HLTV Confirmed S7E9

Talking through every big change that was announced or reported in the off-season so far: Falcons to get Heroic's core, ropz to Vitality, EliGE to FaZe, NertZ to Liquid, VP pick up FL4MUS, Cloud9 fall apart, and more!

➡️ Follow us for updates: https://twitter.com/HLTVconfirmed
📺 Watch live: https://twitch.tv/HLTVorg
🔊 Listen to audio (Spotify, iTunes, Google): https://anchor.fm/hltv

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0:00 - Intro
4:24 - Christmas gifts & air fryers

2024 Awards temp check
7:04 - Top 20 begins - and so do critiques.
16:21 - Role based finalists revealed
21:52 - Imperial fe Valve ranking qualification

Rostermania speculation
24:25 - Skinionaire: roster changes
34:45 - Rostermania kicks off!
38:09 - ropz to Vitality
50:25 - EliGE to FaZe.. more changes needed?
1:11:05 - Liquid: -YEKI +NertZ; b*tch roles who?
1:30:21 - Heroic $10m buyout?!
1:31:45 - Falcons get Heroic trio
1:41:12 - Falcons roster future
1:46:44 - VP keep repeating their mistake 
1:57:42 - BetBoombI4 
2:02:02 - HeavyG2D
2:10:52 - ENCE rebuild in Heroic?!
2:13:20 - fnatic fear?
2:19:17 - FlyQuest regali
2:21:24 - kyousuke made Academy TOO GOOD?

Other news
2:22:33 - Falcons wildcard invite - what players?!
2:32:42 - Calendar predictability issue
2:35:47 - Imperial fe invites: “not fair”

HLTV Confirmed is a Counter-Strike (CS2) talk show featuring Chad "SPUNJ" Burchill, Zvonimir "Professeur" Burazin, and Milan "Striker" Švejda, with guest appearances from community members such as s1mple, device, ropz, Twistzz, karrigan, smooya, dupreeh, cadiaN, Pimp, and more. The show is based around interviews, breakdowns, analysis, and discussions about the esports and casual side of Counter-Strike.

https://twitter.com/SPUNJ
https://twitter.com/Professeur_CS
https://twitter.com/StrikerHLTVorg
https://twitter.com/LukasWiinholt

#HLTVConfirmed #podcast #cs2

ROSTERMANIA: new Falcons, Vitality ropz, FaZe EliGE, VP, HeavyG2D, BetBoombI4 | HLTV Confirmed S7E10

All the new roster updates, Major goes 32-teams, season timeline, which tournaments are gonna have the best teams, and time capsule for 2025 in this episode of HLTV Confirmed!

➡️ Follow us for updates: https://twitter.com/HLTVconfirmed
📺 Watch live: https://twitch.tv/HLTVorg
🔊 Listen to audio (Spotify, iTunes, Google): https://anchor.fm/hltv

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0:00 - Intro

Roster change rumblings
7:00 - Falcons falling in places
8:36 - Heroic buy a core
16:01 - Nice NIP purchases
28:45 - WATO: NIP reach MRQ
38:48 - EF replace Calyx
42:16 - fnatic get fear
48:25 - FlyQuest add regali
51:41 - Complexity +cxzi +nicx
57:05 - Legacy +lux +n1ssim
59:10 - OG +spooke

Season 1 2025
1:05:00 - Striker & Prof take Skinionaire!
1:13:42 - 32-team Major & "Minors"
1:25:35 - What will the season look like?
1:32:55 - "Just don't watch" - SPUNJ on viewer fatigue
1:36:50 - Event timeline for S1 2025
1:51:23 - Who's cooler: ESL, PGL or BLAST?Time capsule
2:13:21 - Prof 2025 prediction
2:20:00 - Striker 2025 prediction
2:25:33 - SPUNJ 2025 prediction

https://twitter.com/SPUNJ
https://twitter.com/StrikerHLTVorg
https://twitter.com/Professeur_CS
https://twitter.com/LukasWiinholt

#HLTVConfirmed #podcast #csgo

HLTV Confirmed is a Counter-Strike (CS2) talk show featuring Chad "SPUNJ" Burchill, Zvonimir "Professeur" Burazin, and Milan "Striker" Švejda, with guest appearances from community members such as s1mple, device, ropz, Twistzz, karrigan, smooya, dupreeh, cadiaN, Pimp, and more. The show is based around interviews, breakdowns, analysis, and discussions about the esports and casual side of Counter-Strike.

https://twitter.com/SPUNJ
https://twitter.com/Professeur_CS
https://twitter.com/StrikerHLTVorg
https://twitter.com/LukasWiinholt

#HLTVConfirmed #podcast #cs2

Good new NIP & Heroic, updated Major & season expectations | HLTV Confirmed S7E11

NER0 joins Confirmed to talk about the Awards decision-making process (and accidentally leaks Rating 3.0), Valve's circuit interventions, Train replacing Vertigo, BLAST Bounty and role situations in G2, FaZe, and Liquid.

➡️ Follow us for updates: / hltvconfirmed 
📺 Watch live: / hltvorg 
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0:00 - IntroAwards aftermath

3:26 - Awards impression

8:44 - All-star match?

10:00 - Highlight of the year

13:02 - ZywOo placement explained

15:32 - Decision-making process explained

23:42 - Rating 3.0 in 2025?!

Recent news

30:42 - Valve listen & judge

48:31 - Major Regional Qualifier

57:28 - 2027: battle lines drawn

1:09:55 - FaZe skip EPL

1:12:32 - Train replaces Vertigo

1:22:30 - WATO: Train at Bounty

1:33:28 - NER0 takes Skinionaire

BLAST Bounty

1:45:10 - Matchup selection process

1:58:43 - Bounty expectations

2:09:54 - G2 with HeavyGod role check

2:12:40 - FaZe with EliGE role check

2:20:17 - Liquid with NertZ role check

2:28:00 - tN1R on Heroic

 / ner0cs 
 / spunj 
 / strikerhltvorg 
 / professeur_cs 
 / lukaswiinholt 

#HLTVConfirmed #podcast #csgo

m0NESY #2 explained, Train replaces Vertigo, G2 & FaZe role issues? | HLTV Confirmed S7E12

Self-inflicted rants from reading forum posts as well as more serious discussions of Valve forcing to comply, Major regional invites, VP & FaZe performance at Bounty, and first Train impressions in this episode of HLTV Confirmed.

➡️ Follow us for updates: / hltvconfirmed 
📺 Watch live: / hltvorg 
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0:00 - Intro
7:05 - Skinionaire
18:10 - Bits of news

VRS circuit updates
20:20 - CCT & YaLLa compliance with Valve
26:45 - CCT shadowbans
44:46 - Major regional invites explained
51:12 - Liquid split region situation
1:05:05 - Skyesports canceled the event

BLAST Bounty so far
1:20:04 - Bounty impressions
1:27:21 - LAN vs. Online
1:33:09 - “Offliners”
1:35:40 - EliGE FaZe takes
1:40:10 - VP washed?!
1:43:45 - New Train analysis
2:00:43 - More silly takes
2:04:00 - SPUNJ rants about more takes
2:09:11 - Top 8 playoffs
2:15:40 - WATO: underdog in the final?

HLTV Confirmed is a Counter-Strike (CS2) talk show featuring Chad "SPUNJ" Burchill, Zvonimir "Professeur" Burazin, and Milan "Striker" Švejda, with guest appearances from community members such as s1mple, device, ropz, Twistzz, karrigan, smooya, dupreeh, cadiaN, Pimp, and more. The show is based around interviews, breakdowns, analysis, and discussions about the esports and casual side of Counter-Strike.

 / spunj 
 / professeur_cs 
 / strikerhltvorg 
 / lukaswiinholt 

#HLTVConfirmed #podcast #cs2

Train & Bounty impressions, CCT shadowbans, silly forum posts | HLTV Confirmed S7E13

HLTV Confirmed and Talking Counter crossover live from Katowice! Joined by Moses and YNK, we're discussing the Katowice results, new teams, and what to expect from playoffs.➡️ Follow us for updates: / hltvconfirmed 📺 Watch live: / hltvorg 🔊 Listen to audio (Spotify, iTunes, Google):https://anchor.fm/hltvHLTV Confirmed is presented by 1xbet & Skin Place:📗 1xBet:https://cropped.link/hltvtwb🔪 Skin Place:https://p.skin.place/hltv5👕 HLTV Merch:https://hltv.org/shop

0:00 - Intro

2:50 - HLTV Confirmed x Talking Counter!

Recent news

6:33 - VRS early impact 

11:25 - Cluj skips

19:11 - VRS discrepancies

27:35 - VRS effect on tier 2

40:50 - HLTV doesn’t cover enough for rankings?

48:10 - Moses & YNk take Skinionaire

Hit the headlines!

57:39 - No interviews for Striker :(

59:55 - Analysts near players during matches

1:07:14 - Gun update1:10:03 - SPUNJ’s rage quit after ultimate’s blunder

1:12:30 - “Frenchman finds pleasure in Poland”

1:14:18 - PR’s 

1:15:12 - FL4MUS not 

1:16:20 - bodyy to join 3DMAX?

More Katowice takes 

1:20:55 - “VP hate undeserved!” - YNk

1:30:00 - Are Liquid cooked?

1:34:05 - Train talk

1:38:41 - FaZe

1:44:22 - G2

1:55:21 - Falcons

2:02:00 - Mongolz

2:06:05 - NAVI vs. Spirit matchup?

2:15:15 - Will donk win MVP? WATO

2:24:04 - sh1ro play style

2:26:22 - ropz’s impact & Porsche meme

2:32:00 - Why don’t we have guests often?

HLTV Confirmed is a Counter-Strike (CS2) talk show featuring Chad "SPUNJ" Burchill, Zvonimir "Professeur" Burazin, and Milan "Striker" Švejda, with guest appearances from community members such as s1mple, device, ropz, Twistzz, karrigan, smooya, dupreeh, cadiaN, Pimp, and more. The show is based around interviews, breakdowns, analysis, and discussions about the esports and casual side of Counter-Strike. / ynk / mosesgg / spunj / strikerhltvorg / lukaswiinholt #HLTVConfirmed#podcast#cs2

Katowice & VRS takes with Talking Counter! | HLTV Confirmed S7E14

Snappi, Teemu of YaLLa, and messioso join the show to discuss all things wrong with Valve rankings in detail. Before that, we talked about Katowice results and tournament impressions.➡️ Follow us for updates: / hltvconfirmed 📺 Watch live: / hltvorg 🔊 Listen to audio (Spotify, iTunes, Google):https://anchor.fm/hltvHLTV Confirmed is presented by 1xbet & Skin Place:📗 1xBet:https://cropped.link/hltvtwb🔪 Skin Place:https://p.skin.place/hltv5👕 HLTV Merch:https://hltv.org/shop

0:00 - Intro

3:52 - PGL Brno?!

IEM Katowice

5:20 - Katowice impressions

8:25 - apEX gets his trophy

12:19 - Shutting donk down?

14:45 - Spirit’s run

18:02 - Medals debacle?

19:51 - WATO: ZywOo more MVPs than donk in 2025?

25:35 - ZywOo matches s1mple’s record

27:28 - SPUNJ takes Skinionaire

VRS issues and fixes

33:51 - Forfeit = loss?

39:00 - Snappi joins: VRS from tier-2 POV

43:49 - HLTV coverage issue?

55:21 - No way to make the Major?

1:02:34 - No open qual slots?

1:08:57 - Teemu from YaLLa joins

1:10:15 - Why not run open quals?1:18:50 - Running events in VRS

1:27:00 - messioso joins, suggest wildcards

1:29:09 - Are Play-ins pointless?

1:38:18 - 32-team Swiss for the Major?

1:45:25 - IEM Krakow, PGL Katowice?! Salacious headlines

1:48:15 - Should take Valve care of coverage?

1:53:25 - Forfeits abuse?

1:59:20 - How many teams can be sustainable?

2:01:25 - Open letter to Valve; messioso objections

2:04:06 - Should all Major stages matter the same?HLTV Confirmed is a Counter-Strike (CS2) talk show featuring Chad "SPUNJ" Burchill, Zvonimir "Professeur" Burazin, and Milan "Striker" Švejda, with guest appearances from community members such as s1mple, device, ropz, Twistzz, karrigan, smooya, dupreeh, cadiaN, Pimp, and more. The show is based around interviews, breakdowns, analysis, and discussions about the esports and casual side of Counter-Strike. / professeur_cs / spunj / strikerhltvorg / lukaswiinholt #HLTVConfirmed#podcast#cs2

Vitality win Katowice; is Valve ranking broken? | HLTV Confirmed S7E15

smooya joins to talk about what happened with ITB, what he's been up to, big team impressions after PGL Cluj, oversaturation, cheating scandal, Cloud9 fading away but not letting Perfecto go, and more!➡️ Follow us for updates: / hltvconfirmed 📺 Watch live: / hltvorg 🔊 Listen to audio (Spotify, iTunes, Google): https://anchor.fm/hltvHLTV Confirmed is presented by 1xbet & Skin Place:📗 1xBet: https://cropped.link/hltvtwb🔪 Skin Place: https://p.skin.place/hltv5👕 HLTV Merch: https://hltv.org/shop

0:00 - Intro

smooooya

3:50 - smooya joins!

5:02 - ITB embezzlement situation

9:30 - Hypothetical UK roster

11:06 - smooya’s WoW career

14:48 - smooya IGL?

16:11 - Will smooya get a team? WATO

PGL Cluj-Napoca

22:56 - Is CS oversaturated?

37:52 - MOUZ debut with Spinx

43:38 - Falcons first playoffs & roster impressions

52:38 - “zonic fraud watch”

1:01:12 - SPUNJ’s Aussie bias

1:02:50 - FaZe at PGL - why?

1:04:23 - FaZe roster & positions

1:15:02 - EF: players stepping up

1:26:05 - Imperial V run ends

1:37:41 - smooya takes Skinionaire (very hard)

Recent news

1:47:05 - oxygeN cheating accusations

1:51:10 - Integrity measuers for online

1:56:34 - SAW changes

2:01:10 - automatic break

2:04:25 - Cloud9 take break 

2:06:04 - Perfecto jailed… Why?!
2:12:12 - smooya’s plans & FPL issuesHLTV Confirmed is a Counter-Strike (CS2) talk show featuring Chad "SPUNJ" Burchill, Zvonimir "Professeur" Burazin, and Milan "Striker" Švejda, with guest appearances from community members such as s1mple, device, ropz, Twistzz, karrigan, smooya, dupreeh, cadiaN, Pimp, and more. The show is based around interviews, breakdowns, analysis, and discussions about the esports and casual side of Counter-Strike. / smooyacs / professeur_cs / spunj / nohte / lukaswiinholt #HLTVConfirmed#podcast#cs2

FaZe, Falcons & EF takes, ITB situation ft. smooya & Nohte | HLTV Confirmed S7E16

malbsMd joins for the middle section of the show to talk about his origin, first teams, joining G2, playing with and without NiKo. Before that, we talk about PGL Cluj results with MOUZ winning the event, and SPUNJ leads a deep-dive into CS ecosystem.➡️ Follow us for updates: / hltvconfirmed 📺 Watch live: / hltvorg 🔊 Listen to audio (Spotify, iTunes, Google): https://anchor.fm/hltvHLTV Confirmed is presented by 1xbet & Skin Place:📗 1xBet: https://cropped.link/hltvtwb🔪 Skin Place: https://p.skin.place/hltv5👕 HLTV Merch: https://hltv.org/shop

0:00 - IntroRecent news5:02 - Valve rulebook update

14:46 - Long leagues no longer possible?

PGL Cluj Conclusions

24:40 --General impresions

29:10 - MOUZ win! How?

33:23 - FaZe fumble or something more?

40:38 - Promise from Astralis

42:54 - “Losing to SAW is shameful” - SPUNJ

43:36 - VRS implications

51:30 - WATO: NAVI to play MRQ?

malbsMd

58:10 - malbsMd joins!

1:01:52 - malbs takes Skinionaire on past teammates

1:11:03 - Origin of malbsMd

1:18:25 - Three languages of malbs

1:20:38 - M80 time, dephh

1:25:55 - Joining G2 & rookie season

1:28:42 - Change of positions

1:39:18 - Post-NiKo role adjustment

1:44:22 - malbs rates his positions

1:49:13 - TaZ impressions

1:50:32 - 2025 roster & expectations

1:52:51 - Move & going home

1:55:00 - Rating aggressive riflers

2:01:26 - Nickname, native food & closing words

CS ecosystem explained

2:05:48 - The basics & Valve rules

2:14:33 - PGL, BLAST & ESL incentives

2:48:10 - Franchised leagues & talk

2:52:40 - Competition between the TOs

HLTV Confirmed is a Counter-Strike (CS2) talk show featuring Chad "SPUNJ" Burchill, Zvonimir "Professeur" Burazin, and Milan "Striker" Švejda, with guest appearances from community members such as s1mple, device, ropz, Twistzz, karrigan, smooya, dupreeh, cadiaN, Pimp, and more. The show is based around interviews, breakdowns, analysis, and discussions about the esports and casual side of Counter-Strike. / g2malbsmd / professeur_cs / spunj / strikerhltvorg / lukaswiinholt #HLTVConfirmed#podcast#cs2

malbsMd talks origin, roles & NiKo; MOUZ win PGL Cluj | HLTV Confirmed S7E17

Pimp joins to discuss EPL results so far, the tournament problems, Cache's reintroduction in CS2, GuardiaN & roeJ retirements, and PGL invite debacle. ➡️ Follow us for updates: / hltvconfirmed 📺 Watch live: / hltvorg 🔊 Listen to audio (Spotify, iTunes, Google): https://anchor.fm/hltvHLTV Confirmed is presented by 1xBet, Skin Place, and Anthros:📘 1xBet: https://cropped.link/hltvtwb🔪 Skin Place: https://p.skin.place/hltv5🪑 Anthros: https://hubs.ly/Q036rPzK0👕 HLTV Merch: https://hltv.org/shop

0:00 - Intro 

3:14 - Chatting!EPL

8:33 - EPL vibe check

16:50 - Format & regional representation

24:03 - Problems of EPL

28:23 - Saudi buyout impactEPL Stage 1 breakdown29:01 - Mindfreak & Housebets

30:30 - GamerLegion: good job

31:15 - SAW: exceeded expectations

38:00 - NRG: just as expected

39:55 - FURIA: “f**king atrocious”

44:55 - paiN: they’re trying

48:41 - TYLOO: everyone likes Jee!

52:10 - Gentle Mates with siuhy, ash & 3DMAX core?!

58:00 - 3DMAX: good for them

59:32 - Eternal Fire: non-concerning loss

1:01:28 - Heroic: very bad look

1:07:21 - FlyQuest: getting worse1:18:12 - VRS implications

1:23:51 - EPL seeding

1:27:41 - Pimp’s take on EPL winnerRecent news

1:28:06 - Cache: “not exciting”

1:31:10 - Map ownership issue

1:34:08 - WATO: Cache is in the MM?

1:38:25 - Pimp takes Skinionaire (GuardiaN)

1:47:31 - GuardiaN retires

1:50:13 - T.c departs coL

1:55:48 - roeJ retires

1:58:20 - Fix your s(h)it by Anthros

2:00:01 - PGL Bucharest deadlines debacleHLTV Confirmed is a Counter-Strike (CS2) talk show featuring Chad "SPUNJ" Burchill, Zvonimir "Professeur" Burazin, and Milan "Striker" Švejda, with guest appearances from community members such as s1mple, device, ropz, Twistzz, karrigan, smooya, dupreeh, cadiaN, Pimp, and more. The show is based around interviews, breakdowns, analysis, and discussions about the esports and casual side of Counter-Strike. / pimpcs2 / professeur_cs / spunj / strikerhltvorg / lukaswiinholt #HLTVConfirmed #podcast #cs2

"Atrocious" FURIA & Heroic, unexciting Cache, EPL vibe check ft. Pimp | HLTV Confirmed S7E18

1. Copenhagen Games

- forZe deliver on LAN as well

2. DH Open Rio

- AVANGAR come out on top

- FURIA destroy Vertigo debut

3. EPL groups B & C

- Two more Pro League groups are behind us

- Round robin drawbacks

4. GG.BET Masterbettor

- It's another forfeit for Striker

5. EPL group D

- First LAN appearance for HellRaisers

6. IEM Sydney preview

- An early look at the Australian event

HLTV Confirmed S03E15 - Vertigo's lan debut, Round-robin drawbacks, EPL update

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