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The Ringer

Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay dissect the biggest topics in Black culture, politics, and sports. Two times per week, they will wade into the most important and timely conversations, frequently inviting guests on the podcast and occasionally debating each other.

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Van and Rachel discuss the dysfunction in the FBI and the Trump administration as a whole in the lead-up to the release of more Epstein files. Plus, Keith Edwards sparks debate on criticisms of candidates. Then, Dr. Umar weighs in on the Netflix Diddy documentary, and Van introduces a new game.

(0:00) Intro

(3:48) Dysfunction in the FBI

(29:57) Epstein distractions

(39:32) Vivek Ramaswamy and the American dream

(47:03) Keith Edwards and Jasmine Crockett

(1:23:52) Dr. Umar vs. 50 Cent

(1:38:47) Van’s N---a Number Game

(1:59:55) Young Thug proposes to Mariah the Scientist

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley

Social Producer: Bernard Moore

Video Supervision: Jon Jones
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Epstein Distractions, Dr. Umar vs. 50 Cent, and Van’s N-Word Game

Van and Rachel react to a weekend filled with difficult news, from the killing of Rob Reiner and his wife, Michele Singer Reiner, to the mass shootings at Brown University and a Hanukkah event in Australia. Then, the return of Philip Rivers resurrects discussions about Colin Kaepernick, the cofounder of Uncle Nearest apologizes, and Atlanta tops an OnlyFans list.

(0:33) Reiner family tragedy

(8:59) Trump’s response

(22:16) Brown University shooting

(42:49) Bondi Beach shooting

(1:00:04) Philip Rivers, Colin Kaepernick, and the NFL

(1:32:43) Fawn Weaver apologizes

(1:46:32) Atlanta loves OnlyFans

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley

Social Producer: Bernard Moore

Video Supervision: Chris Thomas
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The Reiner Family Tragedy, Mass Shootings, and an Uncle Nearest Apology Rating

Van and Rachel discuss Representative Jasmine Crockett, who's entered the Senate race in Texas, and the rejection of health-care subsidies by the Senate. Then they react to the drama out of the University of Michigan. Plus, reporter Marc Caputo joins to shed light on Trump’s actions against Venezuela and political change in Miami. Finally, they talk about ‘Sinners’ erasure on end of the year lists.

(0:00) Intro

(9:30) Jasmine Crockett vs. James Talarico

(43:33) Affordable Care Act subsidies expiring

(56:08) Sherrone Moore fired

(1:14:03) Marc Caputo joins the show

(1:47:31) ‘Sinners’ erasure

(2:07:21) Rachel dating drug dealers

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Guest: Marc Caputo

Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley

Social Producer: Bernard Moore

Video Supervision: Chris Thomas
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Jasmine Crockett vs. James Talarico, Sherrone Moore Arrested, and Rachel Dating Drug Dealers

Van and Rachel welcome rapper Nana to talk hip-hop culture in Los Angeles before they react to Sydney Sweeney’s comments on her infamous jean ad campaign. Then a boxing-style scoring of the best back-and-forths between Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman.

(0:00) Intro

(11:41) Jason Derulo on working with women

(23:15) Nana joins the show

(53:04) Sydney Sweeney on the “great jeans” ad

(1:01:33) Stephen A. Smith vs. Max Kellerman

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley

Video Supervision: Chris Thomas
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L.A. Hip-Hop Culture With Nana, and Sydney Sweeney Speaks

Rachel and Van start the show by talking about podcasters like Joe Rogan and his possible intentions with those he interviews. Then, they discuss Governor Josh Shapiro’s opinions on Kamala Harris’s book and react to both the new four-part Netflix documentary on Diddy and the response to it from Diddy’s team. Rachel also gives an apology rating to BD Wong. Later, they are joined by Governor Wes Moore to talk about reparations, child poverty, and direct conversations with Trump. 

00:00 - Welcome!

04:15 - Joe Rogan and intentions

09:57 - Governor Shapiro comments on Kamala Harris

17:43 - Netflix releases a four-part Diddy documentary

28:24- Pharrell addresses recent political comments

48:39 - BD Wong apologizes for racist joke

58:06- Governor Wes Moore joins us

2:00:57 - Thanks for watching!

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Guest: Governor Wes Moore

Producers: Ashleigh Smith and Donnie Beacham

Video Supervision: Chris Thomas
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Talking Reparations and “Black Boy Tragic” With Governor Wes Moore! Plus, the Diddy Documentary and BD Wong’s Apology Rating. | Higher Learning | The Ringer

Van and Rachel are back from break to weigh in on the investigation of boat strikes, a TikTok relationship scam, and financial literacy in the NFL. Plus, Stephen A. Smith’s talking politics, tech bros are freestyling, and inmates are dancing with their daughters.

(0:00) Intro

(13:53) Boat strike investigations

(31:19) Defining ‘remigration’ 

(41:46) The Danish Deception

(1:04:33) Odell Beckham Jr. and financial literacy

(1:17:21) An HBCU/Divine 9 debate

(1:33:18) Stephen A. Smith and politics

(1:41:07) A very cringey freestyle

(1:47:34) Angola prison father-daughter dance

(2:00:49) Gun pulled over hairline

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith

Video Supervision: Chris Thomas
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Pete Hegseth’s Investigation, and the Danish Deception

Van and Rachel check in on the state of politics and culture before taking a quick Thanksgiving break!

(0:00) Intro

(12:58) Mamdani’s meeting with Trump

(42:10) No primary challenge for Representative Hakeem Jeffries

(59:53) The erotic poetry of RFK Jr.

(1:16:14) A new game: Where in the world is MAGA?

(1:24:58) Klay Thompson vs. Ja Morant

(1:33:38) Summer Walker relationship drama

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith

Video Supervision: Chris Thomas
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Trump Hearts Mamdani, MAGA Bots Exposed, and the Summer Walker Drama Explained

Rachel and Van start the show by discussing Pharrell Williams's intention behind his comments from the last episode. They are then joined by U.S. Senator Brian Schatz from Hawaii to break down his X post about converting MAGA supporters. Last, they are joined by WNBA legend, musician, and honorary member of Zeta Phi Beta, Angel McCoughtry, to talk about how men treat and talk about the WNBA.

00:00 - Welcome!

 00:54 - Pharrell Clarifies

28:20 - Trump Berates Bloomberg News Reporter

37:54 - Sen. Brian Schatz Joins Us!

53:07 - Coast Guard Changes Classifications On Hate Symbols

1:11:12 - Angel McCoughtry Joins Us!

1:33:04 - Thanks for Watching!

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Guests: Sen. Brian Schatz and Angel McCoughtry

Producers: Ashleigh Smith and Donnie Beacham

Video Supervision: Jon Jones
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Senator Brian Schatz On Trying to Comprehend MAGA. Plus, Men’s Views on the WNBA With Angel McCoughtry! | Higher Learning | The Ringer

Van and Rachel react to fractures in the MAGA movement, give a rating for Marjorie Taylor Greene’s apology, and get into the Epstein brothers' correspondence about Trump “blowing Bubba.” Plus, Michelle Obama talks about America’s readiness for a woman president, Pharrell shares his dislike of politics, and Eric Adams goes to Israel.

(0:00) Black women in pop and hip-hop

(19:16) MAGA regrets

(45:23) Marjorie Taylor Greene’s apology

(50:55) Trump and Bubba

(56:15) Michelle Obama on a woman president

(1:10:40) Pharrell and politics

(1:34:04) Eric Adams in Israel

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith

Video Supervision: Chris Thomas
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MAGA Regrets, Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Apology, and Pharrell’s Philosophy

Rachel and Van start the show by reacting to the Epstein emails released by both Democrats and Republicans. Then, they are joined by former reporter for the Young Turks and current co-host of the Majority Report, Emma Vigeland, to talk about the Epstein files, the state of the GOP, and the characteristics of useful disagreements between progressives. Later, they talk about the response toward Donald Trump’s appearance on the Pat McAfee Show for Veterans Day, and Rachel gives an apology rating to Kayla Nicole. Last, they end the show with a segment of VanLaTEN.

00:00 - Welcome!

05:08 - Updates on the Epstein files

32:04 - Emma Vigeland joins us!

1:31:39 - Trump on the Pat McAfee Show

2:01:15 - Rachel’s apology rating: Kayla Nicole’s old tweets

2:19:15 - The VanLaTEN: “Top five dudes that got their friends killed in movies”

2:29:04 - Thanks for watching!

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Guest: Emma Vigeland

Producers: Ashleigh Smith and Donnie Beacham

Video Supervision: Chris Thomas
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Epstein Distractions, Dr. Umar vs. 50 Cent, and Van’s N-Word Game

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