All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series Security convergence is the melding of all security functions from physical to digital and personal to business. The concept has been around for 17 years yet organizations are still very slow to adopt. A company's overall digital convergence appears to be happening at a faster rate than security convergence. Check out this post for the basis for our conversation on this week’s episode which features me, David Spark (@dspark), producer of CISO Series, co-host Geoff Belknap (@geoffbelknap), CISO, LinkedIn, and our guest is Anne Marie Zettlemoyer (@solvingcyber), business security officer, vp, security engineering, MasterCard. Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Tessian 95% of breaches are caused by human error. But you can prevent them. Learn how Tessian can stop “OH SH*T!” moments before they happen, why Tessian has been recognized by analysts like Gartner and Forrester, and which world-renowned companies trust the platform to protect their data. • Why are we still holding back on security convergence? • Is it a matter of "if" or "when"? • What happens when physical and info security are run by different departments? • How can we measure the risks?