This week Lara and Michael talk to one of Lara's dear friends Max from Palestine Action. Palestine Action is an activist collective engaging in direct action in the UK to shut down the factories of weapons manufacturer Elbit Systems, one of the largest suppliers of weapons to Apartheid Israel. Max guides us through recent actions including one where he chained himself to the gates of the Elbit Systems factory, and others where activists have staked out the factory roofs to halt production for as long as possible. Max explains how Palestine Action's strategy is actually to end up in court so that it can leverage the discovery process to request documents that would expose Elbit's dealings and possible violations of international law and/or UK laws on human rights and weapons trade. Max enlightens us on the difference between jails in the US and the UK.... (spoiler alert: only one of them has a call button for tea and ramen). Max and Michael discuss the lack of any true radical anti-zionist Jewish organizations in the United States and Max bemoans that the only Jewish organization getting arrested in the US is the one group that does not support BDS. We talk about the importance of showing up, not just once, but consistently, in order to build a movement that the representatives in power cannot ignore.