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Max Gagliardi

The Always Be Building Podcast explores business, entrepreneurship, markets, and current events with insightful commentary and engaging conversations. Whether it's building a company, expanding your knowledge, or creating a better life, we’re all building something.

Hosted by entrepreneur Max Gagliardi—who has founded companies across Energy, Real Estate, Tech, Hospitality, and Media—the show brings unique perspectives on the forces shaping our world.

Originally launched as Talk Energy, the podcast ran for 160 episodes focused on the energy sector before evolving into Always Be Building. New episodes drop weekly.

Always Be Building

In this episode, I sit down with Nick Huber, entrepreneur, real estate investor, and the voice of "The Sweaty Startup." Nick built a multi-million-dollar self-storage empire and champions the power of "boring" businesses that deliver real profits. 

Today, Nick celebrates the launch of his book, The Sweaty Startup, a guide to building sustainable businesses by focusing on proven models over risky innovation.

We explore his journey from launching small service companies to scaling major real estate ventures, his candid views on China, tariffs, and the realities of entrepreneurship in the digital age, plus his take on AI, innovation, and why entrepreneurship isn’t for everyone. Whether you’re a first-time founder or a seasoned veteran, this episode is packed with actionable insights.

Hope you enjoy the show! 

https://sweatystartup.com/
https://www.nickhuber.com/

#224: Sweaty Start Up - Nick Huber

This episode's guest is Kaz Bycko, a young entrepreneur out of OKC who I have known and worked with over the years. Kaz and his team recently launched Bubbl, an AI-powered platform that curates podcast content. He also co-founded Red Dirt Mining and serves as President of the Oklahoma Bitcoin Association. 

In this episode, we explore how Kaz is looking to revolutionize the Podcast industry and what Bubbl is doing to enhance podcast discovery. We chat about the evolution of podcasting platforms and how AI will change the way we consume media.

I've recently been using Bubbl to listen to my favorite podcasts and discover new clips from other shows that when I don't have time to listen to the full episode. I love the direction these guys are taking the platform. If you are someone who enjoys consuming podcasts then check out the Bubbl link in the show notes below. 

Hope you enjoy the show!

Kaz's Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/kazbycko
Bubbl: https://www.bubbl.fm

Timestamps:
0:00 – Intro
2:03 – Guest Welcome & Background
4:58 – Podcast Digests
8:03 – Podcast Archive
9:55 – Human Insights Over AI Summaries
12:27 – Introducing Bubbl: Breaking media bubble limits
31:26 – Air Chat: Naval’s Failed Platform
40:00 – Emphasizing Podcasters’ Feedback Loop
46:52 – Native App Strategy Using Next.js Technology

#223: AI and the Future of Media - Kaz Bycko

In this episode, I sit down with Sean Frank, CEO of Ridge Wallet, the brand that redefined men’s accessories with its sleek, RFID-blocking wallets and everyday carry gear.

Men’s fashion rarely prioritizes accessories, and wallets are something most guys replace once a decade—yet Ridge built a thriving business in a space where success seemed unlikely. We dive into the Ridge Wallet story, the state of e-commerce, the challenges of manufacturing in America, and why the Amazon seller model is crumbling.

Sean keeps it real and drops a ton of knowledge. Don’t miss this one!

Hope you enjoy the show!

#222: The Ridge Wallet Story - Sean Frank

In this episode, we have my business partner in our real estate firm Jeff Burns. We start the conversation on how he made an incredible parlay early in his career that has been the foundation of everything we have built in real estate.

We then touch on the journey, from starting out with an idea, to how it has evolved into a large scale company. We dive into the lessons learned and the challenges faced, from building our own cabins, to launching a ground up waterfront development, to building a social media following, to self-managing all of our properties. 

If you are interested in Short-Term Rental investing, land development, or property management, then this episode is for you. 

Hope you enjoy the show!

Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Precap
00:02:06 - Guest Introduction 
00:08:15 - How he built his company from scratch
00:13:10 - Saturation on Listings
00:15:45 - Challenges of Building a Cabin
00:24:20 - Why did he switch to Self Management?
00:35:57 - Developing a Resort
00:53:41 - How we sold the Cabins
00:58:32 - Conclusion

#221: Building Luxury Cabins in the Woods - Jeff Burns

Is ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) investing dead? Once hailed as the future of finance, ESG is now facing a reckoning. From underperforming green investments and political backlash to corporate retreats and cultural pushback, the cracks in the system are undeniable. 

In this episode, we break down why ESG is crumbling—examining its financial failures, political rejection, and global contradictions. Listen to uncover the truth behind the rise and fall of ESG, and what it means for the future of corporate America.

PSA below:

This episode is the restart of the solocast direct message series from the early days of the podcast. I'll be trying to put these shorter form (~10 minute) episodes out weekly along with the normal interview style episodes.

#220: The ESG Bubble Has Burst

In this episode, I sit down with Adam Rossi, who built and sold a successful cybersecurity software company serving federal agencies. Adam shares his journey from structural engineer to tech entrepreneur, offering key insights on starting and scaling a business.

We discuss his strategic approach to entrepreneurship - working for two years to gain experience before launching his venture, living frugally while his wife's income provided stability, and evolving his company from a one-person engineering software business to a 250-person organization developing sophisticated government tools.

Adam candidly discusses the challenges of scaling, his post-exit experience, and how he's approached subsequent ventures with a focus on better work-life balance. He shares practical wisdom on how to get started in entrepreneurship, managing risk, and why young founders may have advantages in terms of energy and flexibility.

The conversation also covers his current projects, including his popular off-grid cabin builds and his perspective on Bitcoin as a tool for financial independence. Adam's story offers valuable lessons for aspiring entrepreneurs and those navigating business ownership's challenges.

Hope you enjoy the show!

Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Precap
00:02:06 - Introduction and Background
00:03:49 - Entrepreneurial Journey and Advice
00:07:04 - The Risk and Reward of Entrepreneurship
00:12:49 - Dealing with Uncertainty and Loneliness
00:15:37 - Negative Feedback and Entrepreneurship
00:18:47 - The Evolution of a Business Idea
00:20:18 - The Early Days and Challenges
00:22:02 - First Major Project and Pivot
00:30:23 - Growth and Evolution of the Company
00:34:58 - Decision to Sell the Company
00:38:13 - Life After Selling the Company
00:40:20 - Transitioning from Retirement to New Ventures
00:42:25 - Investing and Entrepreneurship
00:45:55 - Interest in Bitcoin
00:48:29 - The Struggles of Overthinking
00:53:15 - The Appeal of Off-Grid Living

#219: Born to Build - Adam Rossi

This episode's guest is Dan Pickering, the well known energy sector analyst and investor currently serving as the chief investment officer at Pickering Energy Partners. 

Dan has had a track record of successful entrepreneurship ventures throughout his career, notably co-founding Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. before launching PEP. He's a regular guest on mainstream media outlets providing insights into oil and gas markets, investment strategies, and the evolving energy transition.

This episode we dive into the future of the oil and gas industry. We discuss the 2025 outlook, investment opportunities, market trends, and the impact of the energy transition on traditional energy sectors. 

It's always great to get insights from one of the leading voices in energy finance and capital markets. 

Hope you enjoy the show!

Timestamps:

00:00:00- Precap
00:01:17 - Introduction and Background
00:03:06 - Impact of Geopolitical Events on Oil Market
00:06:11 - Impact of the Trump Administration on the Oil Market
00:07:50 - OPEC's Role in Oil Market
00:16:19 - Gas Market Outlook
00:18:54 - Impact of Lower Oil Prices on Gas Market
00:21:02 - Introduction and LNG Discussion
00:27:06 - Energy Transition and Decarbonization
00:28:27 - Investment in Energy Transition
00:36:15 - Power Business and Nuclear Energy
00:40:06 - Pickering Energy Partners
00:41:49 - Opportunities in Traditional Energy
00:44:44 - Future Opportunities
00:50:47 - Entrepreneurship Journey

#218: 2025 Oil & Gas Market Outlook - Dan Pickering

This episode's guest is Karl Graham, co-founder and principal at Luminus Capital, an investment firm specializing in self-storage and industrial real estate. Karl is also a small business entrepreneur that has founded various start-ups.

This episode we discuss Karl's journey from a geologist in the oil and gas industry to building a thriving real estate business. We talk about his strategies for identifying value-added opportunities and his data-driven investment approach. 

Episode flow: 
- Transitioning from geology to real estate 
- Self-storage investments 
- Future Opportunities in Real Estate
- Operational leverage and market trends
- SMB Build vs Buy
- Partnerships and creating long-term value

Connect with Karl Graham: 
- Luminus Capital Website: https://luminuscapital.com) 
- Karl's Twitter: https://twitter.com/Karl_Luminus

Hope you Enjoy the show!

Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:01:52 - Karl's Background and Journey into Real Estate
00:03:43 - Transition from Oil and Gas to Real Estate
00:07:24 - Challenges and Opportunities in Starting a Real Estate Business
00:13:13 - Utilizing Global Talent and Sacrifices in Starting a Business
00:16:45 - Strategy for Self Storage
00:20:12 - Capital and Risk in Business
00:23:14 - Advantages of Real Estate Investment
00:26:01 - Debt Management in Business
00:33:13 - Future Plans in Real Estate
00:35:29 - Exploration and Expansion in Business
00:40:46 - Initial Business Ventures
00:43:54 - Challenges with Google Business Profiles
00:46:43 - Reflections on Business Failure
00:48:11 - Starting a Business vs Buying a Business
00:51:31 - Starting a Fencing Business
00:55:52 - Marketing Strategies for Fencing Business

#217: Luminus Capital - Karl Graham

This episode's guest is John Ross from WatchJRGO— the popular YouTube channel where JR blogs his life and tackles multiple projects like fixing old cars and remodeling his AirBnb. 

We talk about the car market, the car flipping business, some of his craziest projects, EV trends, Tesla and its brutal pricing changes that have left thousands of people underwater on their car loans. 

John shares real stories about the highs and the lows of being a full time content creator and where his future passions might take him. 

I always enjoy talking to creators that have made a business out of their content and John is one of the best out there.

Hope you enjoy the show!

John's channel: https://www.youtube.com/@WatchJRGo

Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Introduction
00:02:02 - John's Background
00:04:53 - The Shift in Skillsets
00:06:57 - The Popularity of Car Content
00:07:30 - Going Full Time on YouTube
00:09:02 - Balancing Different Content
00:10:01 - The Pressure of Daily Content
00:12:33 - Growing Up with Tech
00:13:21 - The Shift in Tech
00:19:13 - Personal Car Collection
00:21:00 - Current car market
00:23:43 - Car Prices
00:26:49 - Emission Regulations
00:29:56 - EV Cars
00:31:37 - Fuel Efficiency
00:39:01 - EV Brands
00:43:13 - Tesla's depreciation
00:47:35 - Managing Airbnb properties
00:53:04 - Future plans
01:01:54 - Discussion on Energy and Industrial Controls
01:02:33 - Conclusion

#216: Car Market Madness - John Ross

This episode's guest is Chris Atherton. Chris is the CEO of EnergyNet, a leading online platform for oil and gas asset transactions. The company has brokered over $10 billion in deals since it was founded in 1999. 

This year EnergyNet has also launched separate marketplaces for real estate, alternative energy, and other real assets under the Efficient Markets platform. 

In this episode, Chris shares his 25+ years of experience in the energy industry, discusses trends shaping the future of oil and gas, and dives deep into the role of technology in asset acquisition and divestiture. 

We cover the current oil and gas M&A market and the trends that Chris is seeing in 2024. We then pivot to discuss the rebrand to "Efficient Markets" and the new opportunities the company is chasing. 

Whether you're an energy professional or run a brokerage business in another industry, this episode gives some incredible insight into what it takes to get deals done at scale. 

Hope you enjoy the show!

Efficient Markets: https://www.efficientmarkets.com

Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Precap
00:01:22 - Chris’ Background
00:01:31 - EnergyNet's Business Model
00:09:32 - Challenges in Building EnergyNet
00:14:15 - Impact of Public Market on Valuations
00:19:27 - Ideal Market Conditions
00:21:29 - The Role of Relationships and Deal Size
00:23:12 - The Importance of Experience and Understanding Sellers
00:26:54 - The Role of Standardization and Technology
00:27:42 - The Impact of Technology on Targeting Buyers
00:35:57 - The Launch of Efficient Markets
00:38:44 - Expanding into Other Resources
00:41:53 - Comparing Business Models
00:42:26 - Working with Government Entities
00:50:52 - Diversification and Growth
00:52:11 - Unique Deal Stories
00:56:12 - Networking in the Industry

#215: $10 Billion in Transactions: A Masterclass on Building a Brokerage - Chris Atherton

This episode’s guests are David Wood and David Alexander from Woodworks Distilling here in OKC. David Wood is the founder of Woodworks and David Alexander is the Distiller. These guys have a great story and this episode we talk about all the ups and downs it took to get this venture launched. 

We discuss the process of building a distillery and what it took to get the first bottles made. We discuss the different spirits these guys are making and the special touches they are putting into each product. Lastly, we talk about the future of the distillery and their vision for the venture. 

Hope you enjoy the show! 

Newsletter: https://ancova.substack.com/ 
 
Twitter: https://twitter.com/max_gagliardi
 
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Always_Building
 
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/talkenergy
 
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/max_gagliardi

#163: Woodworks Distillery

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