Schrodinger's Epstein List

Stephanie discusses the news that the Justice Department and the FBI found no evidence that Jeffrey Epstein had a "client list" or that he blackmailed prominent associates. The findings contradict past statements from Attorney General Pam Bondi about an alleged list of Epstein clients. She also talks about TACO Trump this time sending tariff letters to 7 countries and again extending the deadline. The duties threatened in the letters effectively match the 1st reciprocal tariffs Trump imposed on the countries back in April. Guests - Charlie Pierce and Brian Karem.

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